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welcome and unraveling the secrets were

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rich for the connecting links between

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the delicious feeds of the group of

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secret society outlaws we're creating a

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tightly controlled rural society with

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them as bosses and you and I as slaves

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to their system popularly known as the

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New World Order research indicates that

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most of the unexplained crafts we see in

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our skies from somewhere on or inside

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our planet display the research of the

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hard-working subterranean theories in

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the nineteen eighties nineties which in

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turn led to the realization but the

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answers we seek are the control or the

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number of other latest groups and secret

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societies that we call collectively the

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controllers need a quick look at recent

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world events should convince anyone that

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the controllers plan is working very

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well it is these things

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you reach for on this radio show join us

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as we work towards unraveling the

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good evening ladies and gentlemen this

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is Timothy green Beckley mr. UFO and we

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are on the air with another episode of

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unraveling the secrets and tonight we're

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going to ask the question are there

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aliens living amongst us it's a subject

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that certainly is titillating and

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fascinating to a lot of people

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supposedly there are are

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extraterrestrials or alter terrestrials

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living right here beside us because why

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is that possible or how is that possible

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because they look very human they are

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not scary monsters they are not

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insecticides they are not reptilians

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they are normal-looking men and women

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perhaps a little bit on the good-looking

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side I kind of described them as your

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typical soap opera star and on the other

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side of the Hudson River in Jersey City

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we have that unbalanced balance girl

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Carla Anderson College evening how was

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your weekend you know I had that that

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that big white come in that time he was

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very good-looking there you go well yep

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these are now the big white man of taste

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man of taste coming to balance they they

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are usually the big ways usually

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described as rather being rather tall

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these would be average size

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extraterrestrials in fact we're going to

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talk this evening about a particular et

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by the name of valiant Thor who

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supposedly lived inside the Pentagon for

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three years with the permission of the

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USA a government he had no fingerprints

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his a uniform could not be torn or cut

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or burned and he was willing to share

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information with the US government and

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he lived here amongst us supposedly for

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three years and Craig Campos eyo is the

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producer of a film called stranger to

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Pentagon which is based on this

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particular incident we've heard of you

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maybe what was gonna happen to you this

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proposal is quite extraordinary capital

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city's president is considering signing

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an agreement with them for their

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we also have mark Brinkerhoff who has

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been on our shows before here on the PSN

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radio network and he of course has had

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et contacts since he was very very young

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and he has the amazing ability to go out

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he lives here in Manhattan but he can go

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outside of his apartment or down to

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Central Park with his camera and pointed

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into the sky and take some rather

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amazing pictures of weird things that

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cannot be explained

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two things I don't think he's been on

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this show yet though well yes you're

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right he's been on the outer edge which

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was the program that I was co-hosting

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Michael my but he's been on a program

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surfing I've known him for quite a

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number of years and even though his

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experiences are rather far-fetched and

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far out he does have the evidence in the

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way of photographs in fact I just

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completed a book which we published a

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couple of weeks ago called the UFO

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repeaters the camera does not lie it's

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about 14 individuals who have this

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unmistakable ability to have some sort

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of mental contact with these altered

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terrestrials

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and they instruct them at specific times

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to to go outside and aim their camera at

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the sky and when they develop the photos

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there are UFOs on them and some of them

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are really humdingers of the objects I

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mean we're not just talking about you

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know lights in the sky and in satellites

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and stuff like that we're talking about

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strange things that just cannot be

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explained I mean they are they are

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oddball objects and they are definitely

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UFOs some have a structure to them now

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some of the photographs that mark is

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taken you can actually see inside the

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port of the of the craft and there's one

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picture of what I call a shot

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albian see a silhouette of someone or

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something standing there so the way we

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could see the pictures Tim well they are

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online yes if you go to Marc's web

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website or even go to Facebook because I

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posted them this afternoon and if you go

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to his website you'll see a lot more are

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they in the book the UFO repeaters they

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are the UFO repeaters yes they are in a

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book a good many of our but mark is

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actually taking so many that you

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couldn't put them all uh in there but

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he's a markable young gentleman and he

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has a very unique story to tell and

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we're even going to find out about his

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higher self which he says is actually on

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board of one of these craft that visit

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him on a regular basis here in Manhattan

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now this you know the idea or the

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concept that they are among us is not

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really that new I mean I have been

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hearing stories for quite a number of

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years I remember back I think it was

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even in the late 60s or early 70s I was

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giving a lecture and up in Michigan

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somewhere and after the program or my

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presentation was over one of the

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individuals in the audience who was a

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professor actually approached me and he

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said I want to tell you a story but I

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don't want you to use my name and you

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know I don't want to be involved with it

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personally but supposedly he knew a

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woman a very good character who had been

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driving outside of town a rather late at

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night or at least after sunset

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now she so off to the side of the road

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uh a very bright light which as she got

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closer she could see was a ship of some

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sorts resting there on a landing year

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now she kind of pulled onto the side of

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the road to shut her headlights off

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because obviously she didn't want to be

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observed because she didn't know what

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that you know she didn't know what this

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was about who these people were but she

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did know that it was pretty unusual that

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this craft would be there it didn't look

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like anything it wasn't a helicopter it

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wasn't an airplane there were no drones

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that appeared to be made

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so from a safe distance she watched as

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several individuals came out of the of

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the object and got into an earthly made

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automobile a black car usually is

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described and she saw she saw enough of

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their facial features she said that if

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she ever saw them again she would

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recognize them well sure enough she was

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she was getting into the checkout line

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in front of her one of the men that she

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had seen get out of the craft and get

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into the automobile she decided to

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follow him and to see you know if she

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could engage him in conversation well of

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course it took her maybe a minute or two

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to get out of the check-out line after

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he had proceeded out the door when she

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got out the door there was no sign of

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this particular individual or any

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vehicle that he arrived in and to this

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day or the last time you know anybody

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spoke to her about this she was

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convinced that this was someone not of

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this planet and there are other stories

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that I've heard in this to this regard

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the 70s and 80s there were people coming

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owned by a howard measure at the time

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old he had these repeated experiences

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and took photographs outside of his

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place there in High Bridge New Jersey

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and these people were coming into the

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into the house and they were not even

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bothering to disguise themselves they

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looked so remarkably human that they

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easily pet passed as living amongst us

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with this specific case of Howard

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meander and this individual known as

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valve Thor that has been seen numerous

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times living here amongst us so I think

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it's another fascinating night here on

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unraveling the secrets with Tim Beckley

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that would be me

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with Carla Anderson over in Jersey City

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that would be her with angel the jackal

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down in Miami very smug as he usually is

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because the weather is almost always

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nice in Miami except when a hurricane

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comes through there and with us tonight

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Brinkerhoff that amazing man who has the

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ability to have telepathic contact he

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says with extraterrestrial beings and go

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out with his camera and pointed in

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specific spots in the sky and when the

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film is developed or I guess is digital

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called but anyway when the the film is

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looked at there are what you can only

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describe as unknown craft we're not

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talking about just lights in the sky

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we're talking about things with shape

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and structure in fact there's one

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photograph that I like I think of it's

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the best of all of them that mark is

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taken and he's taking probably well over

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100 in fact and our just published book

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the UFO repeaters the camera doesn't lie

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we have quite a layout of some of the

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photographs that mark has taken

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including one that I call the shadow

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being which seems to be a being of some

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type with his hands on his hip looking

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out the port very strange very unusual

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very unexplainable and with us from

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Craig are you in California I am you are

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so you're in a nutty another another

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warm spot on the globe are you the low

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say are you in Los Angeles

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yes Los Angeles an alum Earth Day yeah

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and and you know I I want to get the

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correct correct pronunciation of your

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last name it's camp Posey okay

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now camp robot though so examples in it

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if you stay with an Italian flair you'll

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never forget your uncle

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Oh Campobasso but if you were to give it

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with that you'll remember okay but

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anyway we're glad to have a Craig aboard

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with us this evening he is the producer

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of a film called stranger at the

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Pentagon and for you who have been

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living in a black hole in space

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somewhere

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the stranger took the Pentagon is a

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really unbelievable story at least even

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to me it's about a space man by the name

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of valiant Thor who landed in a craft

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here outside of Washington DC and was

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escorted and lived inside the Pentagon

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for three years one of the individuals

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that spoke with him on a number of

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occasions is a gentleman who is now

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deceased by the name of Reverend Frank

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E strangers now III think before we have

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our we're going to have a round table

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discussion here this evening on aliens

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amongst us they really live here on

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earth alongside of us but I think we

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should turn the microphone over to Craig

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to have him tell us a little bit about

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this gentleman by the name of valiant

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Thor and when he arrived here under what

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circumstances and what makes him believe

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that this is an actual individual that

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lived here who was not a birthday origin

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and why we can assume that it wasn't

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just the hoax of some sort when did this

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happen uh it was from night March 16th

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1957 to March 16th 1960 and that's when

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he arrived on I believe it was a

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Saturday in a agricultural field in

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Alexandria Virginia at 8 a.m. in the

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morning there were a couple of police

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officers first on the scene anyway he

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was taken directly to the Pentagon

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actually by the way

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when these officers actually laid eyes

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on this man

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all of their fears and everything washed

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away and they actually walked up and had

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a conversation with a fast he was in a

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craft yes so and all the crafts and all

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of that stuff can also be seen on the

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web sites change with the Pentagon so if

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the listeners are one a sort of forage

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through the website as we're speaking

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there's some blueprints and things as

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well to the craft the craft are 300 feet

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in diameter and they're double-decker

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the crew is 200 and I think it's 97 feet

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from top to bottom so they're they're

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quite large they're called Victor class

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saucers so that's how about what ran

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that explained them what did he like got

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escorted that what they do at the craft

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is all in plain sight the craft and

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being a student uh-huh yes yeah and and

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he's a very handsome man there's actual

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photographs that were taken of him a

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much later at a Howard major UFO you

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know used to have as little UFO

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conventions in the backyard in hybrids

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New Jersey so August Roberts who is it

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was a UFO gist who had one of the

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largest collections at the time of

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flying saucers and unidentified flying

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objects as well was like I said a

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retired Air Force photographer so he's

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the gentleman that took those photos he

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believed at the time that he and the

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people that were with him were

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definitely not from here

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he said because that there was this

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energy that was vibrating from them but

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no hand prints or fingerprints when he

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was talking he noticed that as well and

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he just said when he looked at him he

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could feel him look right through him

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like he knew his entire soul history and

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he knew it and it's interesting because

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dr. Frank said the first time that he

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met valiant Thor that he knew he knew

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that he knew everything about him in his

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entire soul history which I found

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fascinating so but anyway just the basis

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of the story is he came he met with

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Eisenhower and Nixon and manat yes well

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she came alone but the people who ever

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were driving the craft took off

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afterwards so but he came alone and he's

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evidently eisenhower and themselves a

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great goodwill coming from him so they

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asked him to be a guest of the

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government for three years and they sort

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of briefly discussed why he came which

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was he had a proposal which was to help

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eliminate sickness disease poverty and

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to prolong life and and they thought

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that three years would be a good time

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frame to discuss the proposal see if

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they could implement it throughout the

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United States and then if proven

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successful share it with the rest of the

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world so so what happened to that plan

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well by the end of the three years it

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was they they actually turned it down

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for the reasons being that it would put

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doctors nurses pharmaceutical companies

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everybody out of business and the

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economy would crash scumbags where Pat

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Scott scumbags I'm just saying that a

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grab bag that said I was like what

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we don't we don't pull anything we don't

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I let him particularly miss we love that

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we love that yes so you know so anyway

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there you know Kenna I read the story in

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the 80s I found it fascinating I saw the

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photographs of alien Thor his vice

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commander dawn

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there was a lady picture two gorgeous

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blonde lady who was referred to as Jill

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who I later found out from dr. Frank was

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the wife of another vice commander on

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board names and za and N and I've never

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met these beings dr. Frank was in

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contact with them throughout the years

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he sat with him when I was writing the

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feature-length script for many years

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going over stories and all kinds of

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things of his experiences and then you

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know I put it together and and then you

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know dr. Frank passed away so and that

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was in November of 2008 and I just woke

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up one morning in 2013 and there it was

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I think the fall of 2012 and what I do

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for a living in my primary job is

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casting film and television and I was

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one of the casting directors on Sky

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Captain in the world of tomorrow with

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Jude Law and Angelina Jolie and Gwyneth

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Paltrow and that film was who has

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conceived by the writer director who did

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a short film and then I sold got it off

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to a producer they raised the financing

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independently a lot of people don't know

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that that sky captain actually was an

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independently financed film that was

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then in its incarnation when it was all

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done sold off to Paramount ampere map

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distributed the film's so so they were

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able to make the film of their own

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volition

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um so a lot of films are now done by

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making a short film so that you can sort

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of give your vision back in the day when

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George Lucas did Star Wars they had Fox

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had no idea what he was talking about

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when he was when he was describing the

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world so he had to go and get a really

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high-end airbrush artist to do these

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sort of giant paintings on board on

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boards I worked on the original dune

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with David Lynch as well for four years

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and and back then there was not we

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didn't have CGI what we had is Albert

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Whitlock who was an incredible matte

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painter who used to paint these scenes

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on glass which were then photographed

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and inserted into the film so so we had

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lots of airbrush artist on on Dumba one

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I think his name was something Shelton I

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believe Wow that's a memory whew that's

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going back far but anyway long story

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short he did these so is so that

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everybody would get an idea of what the

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landscapes were so that's the same thing

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is what I did with the short film um ya

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know it again do you believe in the

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short film do you believe we learn a

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stranger to Pentagon yeah do you believe

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it I you know I I think it I think

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everybody should make their their own

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decision about it I'd had my you know my

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own experiences knowing dr. Frank and

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the UH is this a story of science

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fiction or is it a story of science fact

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I think it should be left up to the

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viewer to decide um but let me interject

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something here um just for a moment now

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I knew uh I guess we should describe or

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talk a little bit about the Frank

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strangers we we was uh he was he was a

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minister now it's quite unusual for a

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Christian I wouldn't I don't know if

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you'd really call him a fundamentalist I

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don't think in this case we could call

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him that but he was a ministry he had

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his own congregation but what made it so

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unusual is that he on many occasions

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got up on the pulpit and discussed his

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belief in flying saucers back when he

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was in seminary school I think he

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someone that he knew or maybe somebody

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that had he had gone the seminary school

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with had had UFO sightings so he started

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studying all these cases and having an

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interest in the in the subject and he

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was giving a lecture I guess one day

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when this woman approached him and said

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Frank can you obey orders and he said

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yes ma'am I and she said well I want to

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take you to the Pentagon to meet someone

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who is living there who is very unusual

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but I think you should meet him because

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Frank at that point was talking about

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UFOs on a regular basis so he went with

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this woman to the Pentagon and he

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managed somehow to get a insight she

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told him to to follow his/her

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instructions precisely and he did he got

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inside the Pentagon he met a individual

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valiant Thor who had no fingerprints

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whose uniform could not be a set on fire

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or cut or anything else and he remained

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in contact with him over the course of

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actually many years because even after

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he left the Pentagon I guess he would

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have conversations go to Frank's house

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in Los Angeles and continue this

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communications in fact Frank claims that

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he actually even introduced valiant Thor

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to Ted Kennedy before Ted Kennedy Bobby

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come on what do you think of that on

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this Oh button about all the bottom

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floor know yeah about I mean you know

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you said that you've been on space

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crafts you've had contact what do you

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think about all this well true story it

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is yes oh just let me just let me just

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let me finish it'll take just a couple

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of seconds here all right okay so here

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now I knew dr. Frank fairly well I don't

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have many friends that are in the

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ministry but Frank was an unusual

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individual he was very kind-hearted he

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wasn't your typical preacher to say the

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least

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anyway somewhere along the line now he

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he hosted a lot of our UFO conferences

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that we had in San Diego and

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Palm Springs and so forth and always did

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a remarkable job he was a great platform

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speaker somewhere along the line I think

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around probably the mid to latter 70s I

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have a public relations company here in

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New York and somehow I met Frank's

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brother now he came from a family of

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ministers but Frank's brother I believe

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his name was a Dave we were talking

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after one of his sermons right it was

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kind of like a Pentecostal meeting where

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the people they're talking tongues and

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threw themselves on the ground and so

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forth and you know I asked his brother

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about Frank I said you know what do you

534
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think about you know a valiant Thor and

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your brothers talking about UFOs and all

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and you know what he told me he said you

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know my brother Frank would be much more

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successful if he gave up this UFO and

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valiant Thor concept and just stuck to

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the regular Christian ministry and you

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know I thought about that he was exactly

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right because Frank would have been very

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successful if he didn't talk about the

544
00:26:58,669 --> 00:26:56,580
spaceman inside the Pentagon but he

545
00:27:00,890 --> 00:26:58,679
decided to do it because he knew it to

546
00:27:03,169 --> 00:27:00,900
be the truth and if Franklin to be the

547
00:27:05,450 --> 00:27:03,179
truth I I give it some I give it a high

548
00:27:07,220 --> 00:27:05,460
level of credibility now whether this

549
00:27:10,549 --> 00:27:07,230
individual really was from outer space

550
00:27:12,740 --> 00:27:10,559
or whether the government had done some

551
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:12,750
sort of ploy for disinformation purposes

552
00:27:16,580 --> 00:27:15,090
we'll never know I mean we can't say for

553
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:16,590
sure that he didn't have fingerprints

554
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:18,690
because we don't have an ink pad he

555
00:27:21,049 --> 00:27:19,770
thought we didn't we didn't do the

556
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:21,059
testing we didn't try to burn his

557
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:24,570
clothes or anything else but valiant

558
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:28,170
Thor has shown up on different occasions

559
00:27:32,390 --> 00:27:30,450
to different people and as the night

560
00:27:34,190 --> 00:27:32,400
goes on I will reveal at least one more

561
00:27:35,660 --> 00:27:34,200
story about that but go ahead mark I

562
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:35,670
didn't mean to take the microphone out

563
00:27:41,030 --> 00:27:38,850
of your and head yet you tell us you

564
00:27:42,620 --> 00:27:41,040
tell us about some of your experiences

565
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:42,630
because what we're talking about here is

566
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:45,090
not just volume Thor but the fact that

567
00:27:50,570 --> 00:27:48,330
there may be uh humanoids from other

568
00:27:53,090 --> 00:27:50,580
planets or extraterrestrials walking

569
00:27:55,130 --> 00:27:53,100
right amongst us and the the individuals

570
00:27:58,390 --> 00:27:55,140
that you claim to be in contact with

571
00:28:01,669 --> 00:27:58,400
from an early age or not that you know

572
00:28:02,390 --> 00:28:01,679
creatures monsters or hairy a boys or

573
00:28:04,450 --> 00:28:02,400
anything like that

574
00:28:06,460 --> 00:28:04,460
they are

575
00:28:09,220 --> 00:28:06,470
human-looking in exit terrestrials

576
00:28:10,989 --> 00:28:09,230
pretty much right pretty much well kind

577
00:28:12,609 --> 00:28:10,999
of but they wouldn't fit in here as you

578
00:28:16,180 --> 00:28:12,619
know they're like seven eight feet nine

579
00:28:19,239 --> 00:28:16,190
feet tall yeah long gated eyes law

580
00:28:21,639 --> 00:28:19,249
bronze color golden skin and they don't

581
00:28:24,789 --> 00:28:21,649
so they don't look like us well we just

582
00:28:26,139 --> 00:28:24,799
resemble people but they're not they

583
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:26,149
would be a little warm in order but not

584
00:28:30,159 --> 00:28:28,369
human looking right they could look like

585
00:28:31,629 --> 00:28:30,169
a human kind of but that's about it that

586
00:28:34,090 --> 00:28:31,639
you could tell them in a crowd that's in

587
00:28:37,470 --> 00:28:34,100
me no I there are people in New York

588
00:28:40,749 --> 00:28:37,480
that are not from here or from Earth and

589
00:28:43,029 --> 00:28:40,759
I wrote my old friend Ingo Swann he

590
00:28:45,850 --> 00:28:43,039
tells a story in his book penetration

591
00:28:48,129 --> 00:28:45,860
where he actually saw a girl woman

592
00:28:52,930 --> 00:28:48,139
actually in California a grocery stand

593
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:52,940
and described her as very tall um over

594
00:28:58,239 --> 00:28:56,210
six feet tall so and they're very

595
00:29:00,249 --> 00:28:58,249
telepathic they can read minds and

596
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:00,259
everything and like valiant Florida they

597
00:29:05,470 --> 00:29:02,690
would they can see you and know all

598
00:29:08,789 --> 00:29:05,480
about you they like met their masters in

599
00:29:11,499 --> 00:29:08,799
the in essence so the beings I met from

600
00:29:14,529 --> 00:29:11,509
first ones on network where I call my

601
00:29:15,909 --> 00:29:14,539
space family because I don't come from

602
00:29:19,090 --> 00:29:15,919
Earth either it's like reincarnated

603
00:29:21,100 --> 00:29:19,100
thing but they took me on board

604
00:29:24,279 --> 00:29:21,110
I went willingly I was never held will

605
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:24,289
you first time was five years old and

606
00:29:29,409 --> 00:29:25,850
then where were you tell us how it all

607
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:29,419
went down York yeah so tell mr. Saul

608
00:29:35,859 --> 00:29:32,570
story I had to go but when you're five

609
00:29:37,899 --> 00:29:35,869
so what happened it's I snuck out of the

610
00:29:39,310 --> 00:29:37,909
house because I was telepathic being

611
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:39,320
called to just come up to the field

612
00:29:45,580 --> 00:29:40,850
because I would go up to the field and

613
00:29:47,350 --> 00:29:45,590
then with my dog it's the school field

614
00:29:49,690 --> 00:29:47,360
from my house was only if you ran up the

615
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:49,700
hill thirty Seconds to get there it was

616
00:29:54,039 --> 00:29:52,610
not far so I would sneak out run up

617
00:29:58,810 --> 00:29:54,049
there and run back and this is in the

618
00:30:01,779 --> 00:29:58,820
time 1950 5758 those days no one's

619
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:01,789
around up there and I would come back so

620
00:30:06,549 --> 00:30:04,490
the first when this happened the first

621
00:30:07,899 --> 00:30:06,559
UFO I saw up the stayin at that field

622
00:30:09,940 --> 00:30:07,909
was around three o'clock in the

623
00:30:11,950 --> 00:30:09,950
afternoon over the football fields and

624
00:30:15,609 --> 00:30:11,960
came as a giant silver sphere

625
00:30:17,769 --> 00:30:15,619
looked like a shiny chrome pinball it

626
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:17,779
was probably I estimate today 30 feet

627
00:30:21,070 --> 00:30:18,410
annular

628
00:30:23,770 --> 00:30:21,080
because it was over the trees it was

629
00:30:25,390 --> 00:30:23,780
huge and had telepathic contact with

630
00:30:27,490 --> 00:30:25,400
that with the sphere and I knew there

631
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:27,500
were people in it and they talked to me

632
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:30,410
and anyway that that's my first contact

633
00:30:35,860 --> 00:30:33,650
and after that came I was called to go

634
00:30:38,140 --> 00:30:35,870
back to the field and it was a warm

635
00:30:42,820 --> 00:30:38,150
night and I went up to the field and uh

636
00:30:44,740 --> 00:30:42,830
I actually started asking for to go

637
00:30:47,410 --> 00:30:44,750
you know I said hey come here take me

638
00:30:50,170 --> 00:30:47,420
home so this big giant object looks like

639
00:30:52,660 --> 00:30:50,180
a super bright star shows up stops

640
00:30:54,850 --> 00:30:52,670
overhead comes down and as it comes down

641
00:30:57,340 --> 00:30:54,860
gets to about the size of a quarter in

642
00:31:00,790 --> 00:30:57,350
the sky at arm's length then moves to my

643
00:31:03,070 --> 00:31:00,800
right and hovers over the field it

644
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:03,080
didn't land and it was behind the

645
00:31:08,500 --> 00:31:04,610
schools so you couldn't see anything

646
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:08,510
from the road and balance out five years

647
00:31:13,510 --> 00:31:10,850
old okay but just about five years old

648
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:13,520
so it happened a couple times when you

649
00:31:16,270 --> 00:31:15,410
were dead weight it happened again when

650
00:31:18,610 --> 00:31:16,280
I was about seven

651
00:31:20,380 --> 00:31:18,620
and I was in the woods near to school

652
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:20,390
there was a big giant rock you could go

653
00:31:23,830 --> 00:31:22,010
sit on and just meditate and just sit

654
00:31:26,230 --> 00:31:23,840
there and there was a clear opening to

655
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:26,240
the sky and one time of being levitated

656
00:31:29,740 --> 00:31:28,490
there close to me there's a lot of

657
00:31:33,070 --> 00:31:29,750
different little things that happened

658
00:31:35,290 --> 00:31:33,080
and another time I was around twelve

659
00:31:37,660 --> 00:31:35,300
they were coming back and forth when I

660
00:31:39,310 --> 00:31:37,670
was turned eleven and twelve coming back

661
00:31:41,500 --> 00:31:39,320
any time I asked they'd come back at

662
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:41,510
eight o'clock or 9 o'clock at night come

663
00:31:45,580 --> 00:31:43,490
over my house and anyone with me would

664
00:31:49,060 --> 00:31:45,590
see them and if I visited some friends

665
00:31:50,860 --> 00:31:49,070
at night night after school and they'd

666
00:31:52,630 --> 00:31:50,870
always I didn't have a lot of friends

667
00:31:55,330 --> 00:31:52,640
but the ones that ask me is it can come

668
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:55,340
over to dinner and I said oh you know

669
00:32:00,310 --> 00:31:57,650
right shared guest stuff and at eight

670
00:32:02,650 --> 00:32:00,320
o'clock I would hear they would ask them

671
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:02,660
like to come where I am they said we can

672
00:32:06,430 --> 00:32:04,850
always locate you that kind of thing so

673
00:32:09,340 --> 00:32:06,440
I would hear come outside

674
00:32:10,750 --> 00:32:09,350
and anybody with me with the kids or any

675
00:32:12,940 --> 00:32:10,760
they come out need to see them stopped

676
00:32:15,730 --> 00:32:12,950
over their house and stopped over us in

677
00:32:17,020 --> 00:32:15,740
the driveway and to go up and down for

678
00:32:19,330 --> 00:32:17,030
you ask questions and back and forth for

679
00:32:21,810 --> 00:32:19,340
no questions for the kids I would hear

680
00:32:23,980 --> 00:32:21,820
them telepathically say yes whatever and

681
00:32:26,770 --> 00:32:23,990
then they would take off and leave and

682
00:32:30,310 --> 00:32:26,780
it goes in the way what did your parents

683
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:30,320
think my parents at first my father

684
00:32:34,690 --> 00:32:32,090
always listened to me

685
00:32:37,060 --> 00:32:34,700
to that information back then they was

686
00:32:40,390 --> 00:32:37,070
from space and I had no knowledge that

687
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:40,400
at four years old and so he watch me was

688
00:32:44,500 --> 00:32:42,890
very metaphysical away he had like

689
00:32:47,980 --> 00:32:44,510
subscribe to fake magazine at one time

690
00:32:51,370 --> 00:32:47,990
so he was open to this and we missed him

691
00:32:53,500 --> 00:32:51,380
with me they came over our backyard two

692
00:32:54,820 --> 00:32:53,510
of them one opened a window big giant

693
00:32:57,779 --> 00:32:54,830
window around the whole side of the ship

694
00:33:01,360 --> 00:32:57,789
and it was six silhouettes waist up and

695
00:33:03,730 --> 00:33:01,370
one on the left starts waving to us and

696
00:33:06,700 --> 00:33:03,740
my father saw at that moment then they

697
00:33:08,980 --> 00:33:06,710
turned the ship's man on with a little

698
00:33:12,130 --> 00:33:08,990
energy and glowed in the window to stop

699
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:12,140
and closed up and they shot one of them

700
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:13,730
on the right side shot a beam into the

701
00:33:19,149 --> 00:33:15,970
yard and I knew that that was a

702
00:33:21,370 --> 00:33:19,159
telekinetic teleportation being but my

703
00:33:24,700 --> 00:33:21,380
first feeling when I saw was it was at a

704
00:33:26,460 --> 00:33:24,710
light being being beamed that can hear

705
00:33:29,169 --> 00:33:26,470
and know what's going on holy are you

706
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:29,179
like being a probe being what year was

707
00:33:37,330 --> 00:33:33,970
this 1967 okay

708
00:33:39,700 --> 00:33:37,340
February 10th is cold and snow is on the

709
00:33:41,500 --> 00:33:39,710
ground and I said to the mommy chip to

710
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:41,510
school telegraphic lean out loud I said

711
00:33:45,070 --> 00:33:43,130
to backyard dance I'll be gentle

712
00:33:46,389 --> 00:33:45,080
and they started hovering very slowly

713
00:33:49,409 --> 00:33:46,399
and going towards the school and then it

714
00:33:51,730 --> 00:33:49,419
hovered over the top of the school and

715
00:33:54,970 --> 00:33:51,740
thank my father drove me up to the

716
00:33:56,289 --> 00:33:54,980
pissed car quickly took to the field he

717
00:33:58,330 --> 00:33:56,299
didn't say in the feel because he didn't

718
00:34:00,730 --> 00:33:58,340
have a jacket that was windy and cold my

719
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:00,740
dog came with me and we went on into the

720
00:34:04,330 --> 00:34:02,330
field where I used to go that's where

721
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:04,340
they picked me up and they came from

722
00:34:07,930 --> 00:34:05,690
over the school and hovered over me in

723
00:34:10,930 --> 00:34:07,940
the field and my father was watching and

724
00:34:13,780 --> 00:34:10,940
I got hit with a lot of warm energy from

725
00:34:15,250 --> 00:34:13,790
the crowd so we would state my dog and I

726
00:34:17,290 --> 00:34:15,260
were just sitting on the snow basically

727
00:34:22,300 --> 00:34:17,300
most of the night my father went back to

728
00:34:23,740 --> 00:34:22,310
the house and they did some show for me

729
00:34:24,970 --> 00:34:23,750
in the sky when one airplane showed up

730
00:34:27,639 --> 00:34:24,980
they would just to shut off and

731
00:34:28,990 --> 00:34:27,649
disappear and pop back on later on so

732
00:34:30,430 --> 00:34:29,000
that's kind of that thing out

733
00:34:32,109 --> 00:34:30,440
telepathically talking with them and

734
00:34:33,310 --> 00:34:32,119
they didn't want it they say we can't

735
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:33,320
land because it causes too much

736
00:34:41,859 --> 00:34:39,290
commotion and in that time the 1960s so

737
00:34:45,450 --> 00:34:41,869
when did they take you up hmm when did

738
00:34:47,819 --> 00:34:45,460
they take you up now 1958

739
00:34:49,470 --> 00:34:47,829
that's what they took you up in 58 yeah

740
00:34:53,369 --> 00:34:49,480
I was 5 years old we went behind the

741
00:34:55,799 --> 00:34:53,379
moon went towards Saturn and I know

742
00:34:57,059 --> 00:34:55,809
there's people in the moon and they told

743
00:34:58,380 --> 00:34:57,069
me about the moon because there he knew

744
00:34:59,760 --> 00:34:58,390
about some of it because I told my

745
00:35:01,770 --> 00:34:59,770
father there's people in the moon and

746
00:35:03,420 --> 00:35:01,780
then they took because I'm going to show

747
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:03,430
it to me from behind the moon they went

748
00:35:11,700 --> 00:35:07,170
off with Saturn but what was it the mom

749
00:35:13,380 --> 00:35:11,710
well the moon is um you know it's a

750
00:35:15,510 --> 00:35:13,390
spaceship it's a giant spatia

751
00:35:18,030 --> 00:35:15,520
the good moon had set up there millions

752
00:35:19,980 --> 00:35:18,040
of years ago it was brought in after a

753
00:35:21,990 --> 00:35:19,990
planet had exploding the solar system

754
00:35:24,240 --> 00:35:22,000
caused the disk and imbalance in the

755
00:35:28,049 --> 00:35:24,250
system so they brought this ancient

756
00:35:30,630 --> 00:35:28,059
let's say core of an old climate

757
00:35:32,940 --> 00:35:30,640
somewhere looks like another better dust

758
00:35:35,430 --> 00:35:32,950
thing they have an inside he carved it

759
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:35,440
out so clean and metal inside there's a

760
00:35:40,950 --> 00:35:38,170
ship inside their bases they come on

761
00:35:43,740 --> 00:35:40,960
yeah there's a ship in the month it was

762
00:35:46,770 --> 00:35:43,750
no moon like margins moon - no moon

763
00:35:48,450 --> 00:35:46,780
those are awesome hidden aspects crash

764
00:35:49,740 --> 00:35:48,460
like what he's probably yeah what he's

765
00:35:53,069 --> 00:35:49,750
trying to say is that the moon is an

766
00:35:55,500 --> 00:35:53,079
artificial satellite right and yeah I

767
00:35:57,569 --> 00:35:55,510
was in an out-of-body and when I told

768
00:36:00,329 --> 00:35:57,579
Ingo Swann about that he had been out

769
00:36:01,770 --> 00:36:00,339
there out-of-body he said to me no one's

770
00:36:03,569 --> 00:36:01,780
been there except no one's seen that

771
00:36:05,220 --> 00:36:03,579
scene except you have ever met any

772
00:36:07,049 --> 00:36:05,230
better a whole planet anything he says

773
00:36:09,839 --> 00:36:07,059
you've seen what I've seen in unison

774
00:36:13,410 --> 00:36:09,849
yeah there's people in there scientific

775
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:13,420
very scientific and they always sit they

776
00:36:17,130 --> 00:36:15,130
always did say the man in the moon right

777
00:36:19,410 --> 00:36:17,140
yeah there was a couple of kindly

778
00:36:21,359 --> 00:36:19,420
beauties a month of look human they

779
00:36:22,710 --> 00:36:21,369
could walk around here and there's

780
00:36:25,140 --> 00:36:22,720
others that are little humanoid-looking

781
00:36:27,030 --> 00:36:25,150
so they wouldn't walk on the earth but

782
00:36:28,859 --> 00:36:27,040
they have still kind of human-like

783
00:36:32,339 --> 00:36:28,869
features they might have larger eyes or

784
00:36:36,240 --> 00:36:32,349
tall and skinnier slender and like the

785
00:36:37,289 --> 00:36:36,250
greys no I didn't seem great actually I

786
00:36:39,839 --> 00:36:37,299
know there's probably something there

787
00:36:43,079 --> 00:36:39,849
probably today but and so I were there

788
00:36:49,370 --> 00:36:43,089
was what color were they uh they looked

789
00:36:52,799 --> 00:36:49,380
very white the ones that I saw and

790
00:36:54,900 --> 00:36:52,809
almost super white I can't get how you

791
00:36:56,490 --> 00:36:54,910
explain that so once that limit the man

792
00:36:58,320 --> 00:36:56,500
come to me question do they have like

793
00:37:00,120 --> 00:36:58,330
seen their eyes were they

794
00:37:02,100 --> 00:37:00,130
like oval over they have corneas like

795
00:37:04,260 --> 00:37:02,110
ours the ones that I saw excuse the

796
00:37:06,980 --> 00:37:04,270
first ones I saw look human and they

797
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:06,990
were tall but they had very white skin

798
00:37:11,700 --> 00:37:09,490
the other ones I saw that looked human

799
00:37:13,110 --> 00:37:11,710
that could fit in had are kind of

800
00:37:16,950 --> 00:37:13,120
different types of color skin is very

801
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:16,960
dark tans in a very beige look more like

802
00:37:22,410 --> 00:37:20,170
tans and then some other beings were

803
00:37:24,180 --> 00:37:22,420
more skinny very kind of strange or

804
00:37:26,930 --> 00:37:24,190
alien like looking but they did not look

805
00:37:29,540 --> 00:37:26,940
like greys they had irises in their hive

806
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:29,550
yeah to hand all your sister

807
00:37:37,050 --> 00:37:33,850
insecticides no I've seen those outside

808
00:37:38,700 --> 00:37:37,060
up and out of body yeah but um the thing

809
00:37:42,510 --> 00:37:38,710
is that they could hear in there they're

810
00:37:44,490 --> 00:37:42,520
there and they told me they monitor that

811
00:37:46,170 --> 00:37:44,500
telepathically I got they're monitoring

812
00:37:48,230 --> 00:37:46,180
everything in the solar system and

813
00:37:51,930 --> 00:37:48,240
that's been there for millions of years

814
00:37:54,630 --> 00:37:51,940
so come on yeah it just goes to show you

815
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:54,640
surface our systems are older than the

816
00:37:59,880 --> 00:37:56,890
solar system there's more systems okay

817
00:38:01,470 --> 00:37:59,890
Oh certain psychology see they've been

818
00:38:02,100 --> 00:38:01,480
monitoring this planet for millions of

819
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:02,110
years that

820
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:04,450
well when the moon was set up to be the

821
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:07,930
moon gotta stay back in beyond dinosaur

822
00:38:12,270 --> 00:38:09,850
times to because there was a ancient

823
00:38:14,850 --> 00:38:12,280
know the earth is has looked a couple of

824
00:38:16,290 --> 00:38:14,860
times and there's my fourth time now

825
00:38:17,700 --> 00:38:16,300
we're on where like the fourth wrong

826
00:38:19,290 --> 00:38:17,710
because when we went around three times

827
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:19,300
oh there's one around so you'll find

828
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:24,490
will for any old artifacts that date

829
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:26,290
from millions of years ago you have the

830
00:38:30,900 --> 00:38:28,930
giants and other kinds of artifacts

831
00:38:32,850 --> 00:38:30,910
remember the OOP osseous how to place

832
00:38:36,180 --> 00:38:32,860
objects like the battery in the in the

833
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:36,190
geode take some geo to form right

834
00:38:43,610 --> 00:38:39,930
million years ago so trite it's um not a

835
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:43,620
way back battery but I've got a battery

836
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:45,850
are you talking about the Baghdad

837
00:38:49,530 --> 00:38:47,650
battery for example yeah remember they

838
00:38:50,940 --> 00:38:49,540
discovered battery inside of a geode

839
00:38:52,860 --> 00:38:50,950
that was cut open right

840
00:38:55,410 --> 00:38:52,870
yeah the Exide battery but it wasn't

841
00:38:58,380 --> 00:38:55,420
like our modern battery but right right

842
00:39:00,210 --> 00:38:58,390
but I had the same basic idea of what

843
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:00,220
our batteries do yeah yeah could you

844
00:39:03,870 --> 00:39:01,690
just see the et walking by enough

845
00:39:07,790 --> 00:39:03,880
unknown Beach of the shores or something

846
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:07,800
talking but whoops I'd lost it somewhere

847
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:10,810
but now when I was in England I was on

848
00:39:13,890 --> 00:39:12,130
there too on the ship so

849
00:39:17,370 --> 00:39:13,900
it we had different different

850
00:39:21,420 --> 00:39:17,380
experiences and now mark how many how

851
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:21,430
many contacts you say that you've had I

852
00:39:26,370 --> 00:39:22,570
mean I guess you would have to estimate

853
00:39:28,470 --> 00:39:26,380
them and how many actually have actual

854
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:28,480
photographs have you taken because I

855
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:30,490
know some of them are in the UFO

856
00:39:34,740 --> 00:39:32,890
repeaters book but solely not all of

857
00:39:36,660 --> 00:39:34,750
them you have more on your website how

858
00:39:38,850 --> 00:39:36,670
many different pictures have you taken

859
00:39:40,710 --> 00:39:38,860
and and how did that actually start were

860
00:39:43,140 --> 00:39:40,720
you told to go out with your camera and

861
00:39:46,050 --> 00:39:43,150
start taking photographs it started when

862
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:46,060
I met Tim and Harold and one of your Tim

863
00:39:51,210 --> 00:39:47,770
seminars he had in New York City back in

864
00:39:54,060 --> 00:39:51,220
1976 I think I don't know it was on the

865
00:39:55,500 --> 00:39:54,070
East 50s I think when you had the

866
00:39:58,820 --> 00:39:55,510
building they're angels building and he

867
00:40:02,370 --> 00:39:58,830
had like a I'm an auditorium with sheets

868
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:02,380
well let's see I had a place on 14th

869
00:40:06,900 --> 00:40:04,930
Street that was the main headquarters uh

870
00:40:08,730 --> 00:40:06,910
but then we did we rented out uh

871
00:40:10,410 --> 00:40:08,740
you know different auditoriums we were

872
00:40:12,510 --> 00:40:10,420
expecting a bigger crowd or something

873
00:40:14,910 --> 00:40:12,520
like that was the people I think Tim

874
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:14,920
O'Reilly was there too oh yeah well we

875
00:40:18,720 --> 00:40:16,810
we had just about everybody who was uh

876
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:18,730
up and coming up and coming in the world

877
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:21,850
of the paranormal and UFOs without

878
00:40:26,190 --> 00:40:24,370
exception I think we were one of the

879
00:40:29,340 --> 00:40:26,200
first if not the first metaphysical

880
00:40:31,380 --> 00:40:29,350
centers uh in the chili on the East

881
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:31,390
Coast on the west coast they had been

882
00:40:36,720 --> 00:40:34,090
doing this for a long long time but it

883
00:40:39,150 --> 00:40:36,730
never really occurred on here in New

884
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:39,160
York and but we gave it you know we gave

885
00:40:44,630 --> 00:40:41,410
it a good shot for many many years but

886
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:44,640
or you know my my mind you know like it

887
00:40:50,430 --> 00:40:47,410
it's been a long time since I've known

888
00:40:52,140 --> 00:40:50,440
you certainly but refresh my memory how

889
00:40:55,470 --> 00:40:52,150
did that come about that you went out

890
00:40:57,390 --> 00:40:55,480
with the camera um right after I went to

891
00:40:59,190 --> 00:40:57,400
that meeting where you had people with

892
00:41:02,370 --> 00:40:59,200
UFO experiences come like Betty hill

893
00:41:07,290 --> 00:41:02,380
Stella Lansing and who've been who

894
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:07,300
witnessed the Fatima UFO mimic were

895
00:41:10,620 --> 00:41:09,490
there I don't know their names but I

896
00:41:13,470 --> 00:41:10,630
just remembered that I don't remember

897
00:41:15,180 --> 00:41:13,480
either not a witness they were kids when

898
00:41:17,730 --> 00:41:15,190
it happened a neighbor in that field and

899
00:41:19,110 --> 00:41:17,740
the craft came down spinning in with

900
00:41:21,390 --> 00:41:19,120
lights and everything and ride did not

901
00:41:25,290 --> 00:41:21,400
everything um so I found that really

902
00:41:25,590 --> 00:41:25,300
great and I think Tim Wiley was helping

903
00:41:26,910 --> 00:41:25,600
to

904
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:26,920
on something at that building maybe

905
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:30,010
that's how he also met him and pin talks

906
00:41:34,860 --> 00:41:32,410
about angels and dolphins that's correct

907
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:34,870
I remember him from I remember him from

908
00:41:39,900 --> 00:41:38,050
the harmonic convergence where in the

909
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:39,910
Central Park ed I think bearing some

910
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:42,130
crystals or something in he had he and I

911
00:41:50,220 --> 00:41:44,770
have on the brightest colorful shirts of

912
00:41:53,700 --> 00:41:50,230
anybody among the crowd around 90th

913
00:41:55,230 --> 00:41:53,710
Street you know what Tim yeah I can't go

914
00:41:56,940 --> 00:41:55,240
on with any casual conversation after

915
00:41:58,860 --> 00:41:56,950
mark just said that he's been with all

916
00:42:00,570 --> 00:41:58,870
these aliens you know I'm still I'm

917
00:42:02,490 --> 00:42:00,580
still not like how does this affect your

918
00:42:07,170 --> 00:42:02,500
life has it affected your life

919
00:42:08,730 --> 00:42:07,180
no brother has it um I mean I mean did

920
00:42:10,710 --> 00:42:08,740
it make you nervous did it make you feel

921
00:42:13,500 --> 00:42:10,720
empowered I mean you know the show since

922
00:42:15,870 --> 00:42:13,510
you were five I have it I felt like that

923
00:42:17,070 --> 00:42:15,880
by that that new things and wasn't

924
00:42:19,860 --> 00:42:17,080
allowed to say anything because no one

925
00:42:22,380 --> 00:42:19,870
would ever understand and I was giving

926
00:42:23,550 --> 00:42:22,390
information and couldn't share it at all

927
00:42:26,580 --> 00:42:23,560
for 47 years

928
00:42:28,530 --> 00:42:26,590
and they told me that we we sit now so

929
00:42:31,820 --> 00:42:28,540
I've been doing that since um what

930
00:42:35,150 --> 00:42:31,830
information well it's actually had a

931
00:42:38,010 --> 00:42:35,160
protocols and how to besides

932
00:42:40,710 --> 00:42:38,020
telepathically linked up to your higher

933
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:40,720
self or over Souls and stuff um making

934
00:42:43,590 --> 00:42:42,370
that connection and people have

935
00:42:45,810 --> 00:42:43,600
experience and when I give these talks

936
00:42:47,670 --> 00:42:45,820
we do this and uh some people have

937
00:42:50,850 --> 00:42:47,680
actually called and emailed us and said

938
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:50,860
you know it worked I experienced this

939
00:42:54,350 --> 00:42:53,050
and within a week because I don't say

940
00:42:57,060 --> 00:42:54,360
it's going to happen right then it could

941
00:43:01,110 --> 00:42:57,070
depending how psychic a person is or how

942
00:43:03,780 --> 00:43:01,120
in tune but it's just something we my

943
00:43:05,970 --> 00:43:03,790
wife and we teach this at little

944
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:05,980
lectures we do but this other

945
00:43:11,700 --> 00:43:09,850
information was uh just I mean I saw

946
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:11,710
futures I saw different things happening

947
00:43:16,500 --> 00:43:14,770
and told my father about it when I was

948
00:43:18,090 --> 00:43:16,510
about four or five years old and he

949
00:43:20,100 --> 00:43:18,100
years would go by and the whole thing

950
00:43:22,140 --> 00:43:20,110
come true and he'd go to me you told me

951
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:22,150
down your little kid and I would go

952
00:43:25,350 --> 00:43:24,370
Thanks if something happened because I

953
00:43:28,340 --> 00:43:25,360
wasn't sure what was going to happen

954
00:43:32,250 --> 00:43:28,350
anymore you know but I really thought

955
00:43:36,530 --> 00:43:32,260
hmm do you believe in God oh yes creator

956
00:43:38,550 --> 00:43:36,540
yeah so what do you think this that's in

957
00:43:39,269 --> 00:43:38,560
what do you think's going on we're

958
00:43:41,729 --> 00:43:39,279
trying unravel

959
00:43:44,009 --> 00:43:41,739
secrets what do you think okay well the

960
00:43:45,689 --> 00:43:44,019
space people that I know and those like

961
00:43:47,039 --> 00:43:45,699
from there's another command different

962
00:43:49,620 --> 00:43:47,049
commands around our solar system and

963
00:43:51,479 --> 00:43:49,630
people have heard bashed are the astral

964
00:43:54,779 --> 00:43:51,489
command these are actual people I've met

965
00:43:56,189 --> 00:43:54,789
them they are existing and they are

966
00:43:58,949 --> 00:43:56,199
friends of ours action to the whole

967
00:44:00,719 --> 00:43:58,959
galaxy is universal spot on our galaxy

968
00:44:02,699 --> 00:44:00,729
in our solar system so they're there is

969
00:44:05,130 --> 00:44:02,709
they're trying to be the benevolent

970
00:44:07,979 --> 00:44:05,140
being they are but they also bring with

971
00:44:09,989 --> 00:44:07,989
them love extreme beauty and love and

972
00:44:11,849 --> 00:44:09,999
what Valley and Fleur was speaking about

973
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:11,859
was exactly the same thing bringing

974
00:44:17,579 --> 00:44:14,890
health healing wellness to the physical

975
00:44:20,099 --> 00:44:17,589
dimension of space of birth these 3d

976
00:44:22,829 --> 00:44:20,109
realities on those realities they come

977
00:44:25,069 --> 00:44:22,839
from the lyric and higher there's no

978
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:25,079
sickness there's no pain like that and

979
00:44:30,449 --> 00:44:27,249
part of the message from the crew in the

980
00:44:32,669 --> 00:44:30,459
space beings was to not just valley but

981
00:44:36,390 --> 00:44:32,679
others they come and come for our

982
00:44:38,009 --> 00:44:36,400
governments and asked to join with them

983
00:44:41,219 --> 00:44:38,019
because then we could have

984
00:44:43,829 --> 00:44:41,229
transportation in space as well but it

985
00:44:46,169 --> 00:44:43,839
seems like Earth lets the earth just

986
00:44:48,329 --> 00:44:46,179
wants to have the power or the weapons

987
00:44:50,459 --> 00:44:48,339
they don't trust each other I guess and

988
00:44:53,249 --> 00:44:50,469
like them beings that I know heavily

989
00:44:55,439 --> 00:44:53,259
said the earth has the people of Earth

990
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:55,449
have to see the planet that like the

991
00:44:59,909 --> 00:44:57,130
astronauts need space

992
00:45:01,769 --> 00:44:59,919
the planet is one it's like a family

993
00:45:04,439 --> 00:45:01,779
it's like a house all the people on the

994
00:45:05,969 --> 00:45:04,449
planet planet or a family stop just

995
00:45:08,039 --> 00:45:05,979
boring and stop seeing each other in

996
00:45:10,319 --> 00:45:08,049
different countries and continents stop

997
00:45:13,169 --> 00:45:10,329
seeing races these are all tests things

998
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:13,179
people go through and the physical

999
00:45:16,949 --> 00:45:14,650
bodies are like our automobiles we're

1000
00:45:18,419 --> 00:45:16,959
traveling in the souls within them no

1001
00:45:19,589 --> 00:45:18,429
one sees the soul totally but when

1002
00:45:21,359 --> 00:45:19,599
you're out way out in those high

1003
00:45:23,489 --> 00:45:21,369
frequency dimensional spaces even your

1004
00:45:24,929 --> 00:45:23,499
soul traveling out of body and well you

1005
00:45:26,929 --> 00:45:24,939
can see your true self the way you

1006
00:45:31,349 --> 00:45:26,939
actually look earth is just for now

1007
00:45:32,429 --> 00:45:31,359
mirror you looking that's just now what

1008
00:45:34,380 --> 00:45:32,439
do you think about stories about

1009
00:45:35,159 --> 00:45:34,390
abduction so like horrible abductions

1010
00:45:37,620 --> 00:45:35,169
and things that have happened

1011
00:45:39,899 --> 00:45:37,630
frightening things I promise you want

1012
00:45:41,279 --> 00:45:39,909
like really nice aliens yeah well yeah

1013
00:45:42,929 --> 00:45:41,289
I've had friends I've had the horrible

1014
00:45:46,469 --> 00:45:42,939
scary ones with the babies and

1015
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:46,479
everything and they usually were very

1016
00:45:53,490 --> 00:45:51,130
frightened I like an alien so no doesn't

1017
00:45:57,960 --> 00:45:53,500
up my shirt those are the

1018
00:46:02,850 --> 00:45:57,970
let's say scientific I'm their physical

1019
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:02,860
and earth well you know out west via let

1020
00:46:07,590 --> 00:46:05,770
the beings have a place underground to

1021
00:46:10,380 --> 00:46:07,600
have a place because their planet was

1022
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:10,390
dying and the space beings I know told

1023
00:46:14,250 --> 00:46:11,650
me all these different things about them

1024
00:46:17,310 --> 00:46:14,260
way before and when I heard about Betty

1025
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:17,320
hill when I was a kid and I said to my

1026
00:46:22,770 --> 00:46:19,330
father someday I'm going to meet her I

1027
00:46:25,700 --> 00:46:22,780
was like seven eight years old and she

1028
00:46:28,380 --> 00:46:25,710
missed it I'm gonna have to get know

1029
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:28,390
maybe I was seven eight years old in

1030
00:46:33,150 --> 00:46:30,130
1961 so she uh

1031
00:46:35,130 --> 00:46:33,160
my father says how could you meet her

1032
00:46:37,230 --> 00:46:35,140
you don't even know where she is someday

1033
00:46:39,450 --> 00:46:37,240
I'm going to meet her sure enough 1976 I

1034
00:46:43,110 --> 00:46:39,460
meet that eagle and stayed up there with

1035
00:46:44,790 --> 00:46:43,120
her for a week and then came back and

1036
00:46:47,730 --> 00:46:44,800
stole away what did you discuss with her

1037
00:46:50,190 --> 00:46:47,740
I actually asked her if she's still

1038
00:46:53,310 --> 00:46:50,200
upset about those ETS the little ones

1039
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:53,320
that took her and she said at first I

1040
00:46:58,290 --> 00:46:55,530
was I was very upset and angry and

1041
00:47:01,380 --> 00:46:58,300
frightened and as I went two years go by

1042
00:47:03,810 --> 00:47:01,390
she said ah I noticed women they didn't

1043
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:03,820
hurt me as bad as some doctors have and

1044
00:47:08,700 --> 00:47:05,530
she started to that's that's their door

1045
00:47:11,970 --> 00:47:08,710
right hmm that that's that's for sure

1046
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:11,980
now you know actually though just before

1047
00:47:15,270 --> 00:47:13,450
she passed away a couple years before

1048
00:47:17,460 --> 00:47:15,280
she passed away she would go out

1049
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:17,470
actually on a regular basis she had a

1050
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:20,050
favorite site where she would go with

1051
00:47:25,470 --> 00:47:23,050
her camera and sit there and wait for

1052
00:47:28,020 --> 00:47:25,480
them to return and she did get some

1053
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:28,030
photographs of some unusual it there you

1054
00:47:31,980 --> 00:47:29,410
know most people don't realize that

1055
00:47:35,910 --> 00:47:31,990
there actually was a history of UFO

1056
00:47:38,580 --> 00:47:35,920
related experiences in her family going

1057
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:38,590
back I think it was her grandparents it

1058
00:47:42,420 --> 00:47:40,570
was actually a landing on a farm or some

1059
00:47:46,230 --> 00:47:42,430
place that the they had I don't think

1060
00:47:49,980 --> 00:47:46,240
Betty was even born at that time but she

1061
00:47:52,980 --> 00:47:49,990
did become interested you know in making

1062
00:47:54,330 --> 00:47:52,990
some sort of communication with them and

1063
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:54,340
of course a lot of people thought that

1064
00:47:58,860 --> 00:47:56,770
oh you know she's just getting elderly

1065
00:48:01,020 --> 00:47:58,870
and she's imagining this and so forth

1066
00:48:02,820 --> 00:48:01,030
and so on but I do believe that you know

1067
00:48:05,070 --> 00:48:02,830
she was very sincere about this and of

1068
00:48:06,930 --> 00:48:05,080
course Stella Lansing I kind of helped

1069
00:48:09,599 --> 00:48:06,940
to discover her if there's

1070
00:48:12,450 --> 00:48:09,609
two thing in the UFO a field she was one

1071
00:48:14,609 --> 00:48:12,460
remarkable lady now you talk about going

1072
00:48:17,910 --> 00:48:14,619
out with the camera in fact if you go to

1073
00:48:21,839 --> 00:48:17,920
my YouTube beside Tim Buckley or mr.

1074
00:48:24,180 --> 00:48:21,849
UFOs secret files there is a broadcast

1075
00:48:26,849 --> 00:48:24,190
the TV broadcast from one of the shows

1076
00:48:28,620 --> 00:48:26,859
back in the 70s that runs about six or

1077
00:48:30,599 --> 00:48:28,630
seven minutes about stellar Lansing and

1078
00:48:32,370 --> 00:48:30,609
all the amazing things that she took

1079
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:32,380
with her 8 and 16 millimeter movie

1080
00:48:38,420 --> 00:48:35,410
cameras now today of course we've got

1081
00:48:41,910 --> 00:48:38,430
the Photoshop and other forms of

1082
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:41,920
animation where you can more easily hoax

1083
00:48:48,210 --> 00:48:45,130
a UFO photo but these were not even UFOs

1084
00:48:49,020 --> 00:48:48,220
photos these were things in the sky that

1085
00:48:52,109 --> 00:48:49,030
shouldn't be there

1086
00:48:54,079 --> 00:48:52,119
she got faces she got clocks she got

1087
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:54,089
airplanes that were flying upside-down

1088
00:48:58,339 --> 00:48:55,690
you name it

1089
00:49:00,390 --> 00:48:58,349
stellar Lansing you know was

1090
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:00,400
photographed it but you know I want to

1091
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:02,290
get back to Craig for for a minute

1092
00:49:05,849 --> 00:49:04,210
because it Craig you did have some

1093
00:49:09,329 --> 00:49:05,859
experiences maybe not with valiant Thor

1094
00:49:11,220 --> 00:49:09,339
but you did have experiences with with

1095
00:49:14,309 --> 00:49:11,230
masters and beings from somewhere else

1096
00:49:17,309 --> 00:49:14,319
isn't that correct yeah I did I had a

1097
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:17,319
spiritual awakening when I was 26 years

1098
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:23,010
old and and it was on the inner with

1099
00:49:27,300 --> 00:49:25,210
master teachers who actually came and

1100
00:49:30,150 --> 00:49:27,310
woke up myself which is sort of like

1101
00:49:33,300 --> 00:49:30,160
waking up your what Mark was talking

1102
00:49:39,180 --> 00:49:33,310
about your higher self or your over self

1103
00:49:43,370 --> 00:49:39,190
and that awakening lasted for almost a

1104
00:49:47,010 --> 00:49:43,380
year and the first eight months were

1105
00:49:48,980 --> 00:49:47,020
probably the most beautiful thing that I

1106
00:49:51,510 --> 00:49:48,990
ever experienced because I was suddenly

1107
00:49:55,740 --> 00:49:51,520
asleep and then all of a sudden I was

1108
00:49:59,069 --> 00:49:55,750
awake and I was awake in what creation

1109
00:50:03,300 --> 00:49:59,079
was and every little thing I every

1110
00:50:07,020 --> 00:50:03,310
living thing I looked at I saw the

1111
00:50:09,150 --> 00:50:07,030
beauty behind the creation of it and I

1112
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:09,160
started seeing into other people's souls

1113
00:50:13,829 --> 00:50:11,530
and me who were seeing actors on a daily

1114
00:50:16,740 --> 00:50:13,839
basis I would somebody would walk in and

1115
00:50:19,710 --> 00:50:16,750
I would see and feel this incredible

1116
00:50:20,740 --> 00:50:19,720
beauty coming from them that I literally

1117
00:50:23,230 --> 00:50:20,750
would saw

1118
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:23,240
em sob and saw but they were beautiful

1119
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:27,610
sobs and and then I started connecting

1120
00:50:35,980 --> 00:50:31,450
to the Earth's heart and soul and never

1121
00:50:38,110 --> 00:50:35,990
realizing that this was a great mother

1122
00:50:40,710 --> 00:50:38,120
who was taking care of all of us and

1123
00:50:44,290 --> 00:50:40,720
that we needed to also take care of her

1124
00:50:47,380 --> 00:50:44,300
so there were all of those experiences

1125
00:50:51,670 --> 00:50:47,390
that went on and and that's sort of what

1126
00:50:55,270 --> 00:50:51,680
catapulted the the writing and all of

1127
00:50:56,820 --> 00:50:55,280
that and that's where my my trilogy the

1128
00:51:02,500 --> 00:50:56,830
autobiography of an extraterrestrial

1129
00:51:07,150 --> 00:51:02,510
saga stems from was from a lot of those

1130
00:51:10,930 --> 00:51:07,160
awakenings and stuff so that websites

1131
00:51:13,540 --> 00:51:10,940
autobiography up a.m. et , people want

1132
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:13,550
to look at its book 1 & 2 around I'm

1133
00:51:20,140 --> 00:51:16,970
writing book 3 now but but I did have

1134
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:20,150
one experience that I would love to

1135
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:24,290
share I'll keep it brief when dr. Frank

1136
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:28,850
was alive I had gone to a restaurant I

1137
00:51:35,050 --> 00:51:31,610
ate some fish that didn't agree with me

1138
00:51:37,330 --> 00:51:35,060
and I literally was bedridden for three

1139
00:51:40,900 --> 00:51:37,340
days I on the third day I had to call a

1140
00:51:44,050 --> 00:51:40,910
friend to come pick me up she rushed me

1141
00:51:46,810 --> 00:51:44,060
to the doctor they they they just kept

1142
00:51:49,720 --> 00:51:46,820
giving me things for my stomach and when

1143
00:51:51,940 --> 00:51:49,730
that proved unsuccessful they threw me

1144
00:51:55,450 --> 00:51:51,950
in an ambulance and rushed me to the

1145
00:51:56,830 --> 00:51:55,460
hospital they took x-rays and they

1146
00:51:58,690 --> 00:51:56,840
discovered that I had a bowel

1147
00:52:01,330 --> 00:51:58,700
obstruction they were going to keep me

1148
00:52:03,610 --> 00:52:01,340
overnight and then operate first thing

1149
00:52:06,250 --> 00:52:03,620
in the morning one of the vice

1150
00:52:13,150 --> 00:52:06,260
commanders who is on Victor 1 her name

1151
00:52:17,380 --> 00:52:13,160
is teal and anyway she she's very

1152
00:52:19,900 --> 00:52:17,390
gregarious and uh and very very smart

1153
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:19,910
she's uh one of the smartest people on

1154
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:23,330
the crew dr. frank said on the alien on

1155
00:52:30,790 --> 00:52:27,410
the yeah yeah yeah but they look human

1156
00:52:34,450 --> 00:52:30,800
and she's she would is what you would

1157
00:52:34,690 --> 00:52:34,460
say would have a voluptuous body and she

1158
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:34,700
has

1159
00:52:42,609 --> 00:52:38,570
red hair green eyes and a sort of

1160
00:52:45,910 --> 00:52:42,619
porcelain white skin and anyway long

1161
00:52:47,109 --> 00:52:45,920
story short I was laying there in the in

1162
00:52:49,270 --> 00:52:47,119
the middle of the night I should've woke

1163
00:52:51,579 --> 00:52:49,280
up in between Twilight you know when

1164
00:52:55,240 --> 00:52:51,589
you're in that Twilight stage and I just

1165
00:52:57,250 --> 00:52:55,250
felt her around me and all of a sudden I

1166
00:53:00,670 --> 00:52:57,260
started to feel bubbles going through my

1167
00:53:02,410 --> 00:53:00,680
intestines and it was a strangest

1168
00:53:05,349 --> 00:53:02,420
feeling and I knew when I woke up I was

1169
00:53:08,370 --> 00:53:05,359
going to be fine and interestingly

1170
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:08,380
enough when I woke up in the morning I

1171
00:53:15,790 --> 00:53:12,890
was on my side and I looked right there

1172
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:15,800
sitting in the chair with dr. Frank and

1173
00:53:20,950 --> 00:53:18,890
I said what are you doing here and he

1174
00:53:23,319 --> 00:53:20,960
said he'll called me this morning and

1175
00:53:28,240 --> 00:53:23,329
told me she fixed you up last night so

1176
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:28,250
I'm here to tell you that so I had

1177
00:53:34,750 --> 00:53:31,010
x-rays done immediately when the doctor

1178
00:53:37,030 --> 00:53:34,760
came again to uh I didn't tell him the

1179
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:37,040
experience of course and everything was

1180
00:53:41,530 --> 00:53:38,810
fine and I was released from the

1181
00:53:43,690 --> 00:53:41,540
hospital that day so that was that was

1182
00:53:45,309 --> 00:53:43,700
sort of my experience with it how did

1183
00:53:47,260 --> 00:53:45,319
you go how did you have the spiritual

1184
00:53:49,540 --> 00:53:47,270
awakening in the first place I mean were

1185
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:49,550
you in some kind of deep meditation were

1186
00:53:56,670 --> 00:53:52,130
you abducted up at a beam do they come

1187
00:54:00,550 --> 00:53:56,680
down to you now it started it started

1188
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:00,560
where I would just wake up inside of

1189
00:54:08,620 --> 00:54:02,930
another realm is what I called sort of

1190
00:54:13,359 --> 00:54:08,630
like Lucy uh uh was it 26 years old okay

1191
00:54:16,780 --> 00:54:13,369
yeah so um interestingly enough I had

1192
00:54:18,940 --> 00:54:16,790
just finished working for a season and a

1193
00:54:22,530 --> 00:54:18,950
half on Spielberg's Amazing Stories

1194
00:54:28,450 --> 00:54:22,540
remember that TV show from long ago and

1195
00:54:32,079 --> 00:54:28,460
it began right right after that and and

1196
00:54:34,660 --> 00:54:32,089
it just started where I would just be in

1197
00:54:39,490 --> 00:54:34,670
this other realm that I would wake up in

1198
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:39,500
and I saw these three beings we I mean

1199
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:42,050
what did you do in a dream nope nope

1200
00:54:48,170 --> 00:54:44,690
didn't expect didn't expect any of it

1201
00:54:52,010 --> 00:54:48,180
but it didn't feel unfamiliar either

1202
00:54:54,650 --> 00:54:52,020
it I was never there was no fear there

1203
00:55:00,290 --> 00:54:54,660
was nothing attached it was complete and

1204
00:55:02,240 --> 00:55:00,300
utter unconditional love oh yeah oh yes

1205
00:55:06,740 --> 00:55:02,250
of course I believe in God but I believe

1206
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:06,750
in God that everything is God that the

1207
00:55:13,700 --> 00:55:09,690
whole all of creation of God were all

1208
00:55:15,290 --> 00:55:13,710
God and we're all we're all part of it

1209
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:15,300
it's it's interesting you know when

1210
00:55:20,180 --> 00:55:17,970
children come into the world they're

1211
00:55:24,460 --> 00:55:20,190
still coming from another realm

1212
00:55:27,859 --> 00:55:24,470
and my niece when she was quite young

1213
00:55:30,950 --> 00:55:27,869
she she was I think about seven years

1214
00:55:32,720 --> 00:55:30,960
old between five and seven I was I was

1215
00:55:34,339 --> 00:55:32,730
like holding her and she looked at me

1216
00:55:36,799 --> 00:55:34,349
and she said you know Uncle Craig you

1217
00:55:39,950 --> 00:55:36,809
know what's really beautiful I'm God

1218
00:55:41,270 --> 00:55:39,960
you're God and we're all God and my

1219
00:55:45,829 --> 00:55:41,280
sister looked at me and said don't look

1220
00:55:47,510 --> 00:55:45,839
at me I didn't tell her that and I just

1221
00:55:52,549 --> 00:55:47,520
you know I found that really really

1222
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:52,559
fascinating and but yeah I do believe

1223
00:55:59,180 --> 00:55:55,770
that that we are all one in the same and

1224
00:56:03,039 --> 00:55:59,190
so do so do I believe all of the

1225
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:03,049
advanced beings and everything as well

1226
00:56:12,770 --> 00:56:09,410
what well I agree with those yeah yeah I

1227
00:56:16,819 --> 00:56:12,780
don't share that experience no I've

1228
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:16,829
never met any in the physical or have

1229
00:56:28,309 --> 00:56:25,650
been taken I've I've been uh sometimes I

1230
00:56:32,740 --> 00:56:28,319
will like when I was especially doing a

1231
00:56:35,420 --> 00:56:32,750
lot of work with dr. Frank I would

1232
00:56:38,390 --> 00:56:35,430
remember being in different parts of the

1233
00:56:40,039 --> 00:56:38,400
craft and looking and studying the

1234
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:40,049
different parts that I would be writing

1235
00:56:47,299 --> 00:56:44,010
about so that was my experience with

1236
00:56:50,569 --> 00:56:47,309
that but now I would love a physical

1237
00:56:56,059 --> 00:56:50,579
experience I think what what he's what

1238
00:56:58,700 --> 00:56:56,069
he's experienced is incredible and it's

1239
00:56:59,520 --> 00:56:58,710
really quite humbling isn't it mark and

1240
00:57:02,810 --> 00:56:59,530
we go

1241
00:57:05,850 --> 00:57:02,820
yeah they call us all of us they're all

1242
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:05,860
royal brothers and sisters and more in

1243
00:57:11,670 --> 00:57:10,090
light and they see us as are younger as

1244
00:57:13,830 --> 00:57:11,680
their younger brothers and sisters who

1245
00:57:15,450 --> 00:57:13,840
are just a few rungs on the ladder over

1246
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:15,460
here and there are a couple upside of

1247
00:57:18,450 --> 00:57:16,810
reaching down their hand to pull us up

1248
00:57:21,810 --> 00:57:18,460
to the next few rungs and that's what

1249
00:57:25,110 --> 00:57:21,820
Jarvis helped you know and they've

1250
00:57:27,300 --> 00:57:25,120
exactly to sing what we believe is

1251
00:57:28,710 --> 00:57:27,310
aspects of creator were all aspects of

1252
00:57:32,550 --> 00:57:28,720
the Creator like I've not multifaceted

1253
00:57:34,650 --> 00:57:32,560
diamond and yeah we all have an

1254
00:57:38,430 --> 00:57:34,660
individual personality or reality like

1255
00:57:40,830 --> 00:57:38,440
that and yet we are all part of it all

1256
00:57:42,390 --> 00:57:40,840
so it's the creators experiencing

1257
00:57:44,430 --> 00:57:42,400
everything for everybody and everything

1258
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:44,440
yeah it's when I have to fill our I talk

1259
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:46,810
to it alexia a tree I'll pet it in the

1260
00:57:51,870 --> 00:57:48,250
nature kingdom nature spirit to

1261
00:57:53,700 --> 00:57:51,880
photograph them I've seen them and you

1262
00:57:56,250 --> 00:57:53,710
know they're there and they're just on

1263
00:57:58,710 --> 00:57:56,260
the next frequency so when people get

1264
00:58:01,170 --> 00:57:58,720
tuned up tuned in and all I start have

1265
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:01,180
more intuitive ability and that purify

1266
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:04,090
their body cleanser button or eat that

1267
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:06,850
purified food sing higher thoughts be

1268
00:58:11,490 --> 00:58:09,730
loving care I don't care I don't you

1269
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:11,500
know check off the booze everything like

1270
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:13,090
that doesn't create some energy around

1271
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:15,250
the body that right now they've now more

1272
00:58:20,070 --> 00:58:17,890
cast fireflies you had told me you had

1273
00:58:22,890 --> 00:58:20,080
told me earlier today about an

1274
00:58:24,780 --> 00:58:22,900
experience with an individual that

1275
00:58:27,150 --> 00:58:24,790
appeared materialized at the foot of

1276
00:58:28,950 --> 00:58:27,160
your bread and you have every reason to

1277
00:58:32,580 --> 00:58:28,960
believe that this might be valiant Thor

1278
00:58:37,980 --> 00:58:32,590
um I've always I always remembered the

1279
00:58:39,540 --> 00:58:37,990
person who helped me and I told Tim

1280
00:58:42,930 --> 00:58:39,550
today's if this had happened probably

1281
00:58:44,850 --> 00:58:42,940
well then I'll say eight years old or so

1282
00:58:47,010 --> 00:58:44,860
I was riding my bike my cousin was with

1283
00:58:49,710 --> 00:58:47,020
me behind me going down a dirt road that

1284
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:49,720
we knew very you know just sandy type of

1285
00:58:53,610 --> 00:58:51,850
dirt road and my neighbor's dogs would

1286
00:58:54,990 --> 00:58:53,620
play with us and chase us so three of

1287
00:58:56,850 --> 00:58:55,000
the dogs are playing with me they always

1288
00:58:59,610 --> 00:58:56,860
loved us you know and they're just

1289
00:59:01,590 --> 00:58:59,620
running alongside the bike and I looked

1290
00:59:04,500 --> 00:59:01,600
down to the dog and I said no Mandy

1291
00:59:07,170 --> 00:59:04,510
don't get too close and she was just

1292
00:59:09,150 --> 00:59:07,180
running along and all sudden I'm on the

1293
00:59:11,490 --> 00:59:09,160
spaceship which is like you go out of

1294
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:11,500
body or soul travel I was on the ship

1295
00:59:16,290 --> 00:59:13,210
and I was having

1296
00:59:18,570 --> 00:59:16,300
toughing and next thing i left next

1297
00:59:21,270 --> 00:59:18,580
thing I find out I'm on my parents bed

1298
00:59:25,590 --> 00:59:21,280
when my mom with a cool cloth on my head

1299
00:59:27,630 --> 00:59:25,600
my forehead and my father is there

1300
00:59:29,310 --> 00:59:27,640
my mother and my cousin she's off to the

1301
00:59:32,370 --> 00:59:29,320
far left of the bed I can probably see

1302
00:59:37,170 --> 00:59:32,380
her and at the end of the bed is a man

1303
00:59:39,620 --> 00:59:37,180
in a suit a young guy dark hair very

1304
00:59:41,820 --> 00:59:39,630
good-looking and very clean looking

1305
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:41,830
really clean he just didn't look like a

1306
00:59:46,980 --> 00:59:43,690
guy you'd see and I'm looking at this

1307
00:59:48,750 --> 00:59:46,990
guy and I said what happened yeah I was

1308
00:59:50,370 --> 00:59:48,760
I think I can't say where I was because

1309
00:59:53,130 --> 00:59:50,380
I I wouldn't have told my mother that I

1310
00:59:57,630 --> 00:59:53,140
said what happened and she saw this man

1311
00:59:59,610 --> 00:59:57,640
brought you home and I was like what

1312
01:00:00,900 --> 00:59:59,620
happened and I remembered I was riding

1313
01:00:04,590 --> 01:00:00,910
the bike I was all I remember looking

1314
01:00:06,780 --> 01:00:04,600
down the dog and my eye they told me

1315
01:00:08,580 --> 01:00:06,790
that well he went down on the ground

1316
01:00:11,100 --> 01:00:08,590
with the bike just my cousin said he

1317
01:00:12,750 --> 01:00:11,110
went slowly down onto the ground and she

1318
01:00:14,610 --> 01:00:12,760
thought I was fooling around she came

1319
01:00:17,250 --> 01:00:14,620
over to me and dog was kissing my face I

1320
01:00:19,830 --> 01:00:17,260
was just smiling and she could shaking

1321
01:00:23,220 --> 01:00:19,840
and I wouldn't wake up and then he pulls

1322
01:00:26,820 --> 01:00:23,230
up suddenly in a car and stops gets out

1323
01:00:28,110 --> 01:00:26,830
he says let me help and he but he had to

1324
01:00:30,090 --> 01:00:28,120
follow my cousin to my mother's house

1325
01:00:33,090 --> 01:00:30,100
which my parents house which wasn't far

1326
01:00:35,070 --> 01:00:33,100
and my another neighbor who showed up

1327
01:00:37,710 --> 01:00:35,080
from the where took my bike and brought

1328
01:00:39,630 --> 01:00:37,720
it home so that's how I found out that I

1329
01:00:43,230 --> 01:00:39,640
got brought upstairs and he stayed until

1330
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:43,240
I woke up but he did say we're going to

1331
01:00:47,940 --> 01:00:46,210
be okay now so that was the end of that

1332
01:00:50,430 --> 01:00:47,950
he leaves and I'm laying there going

1333
01:00:53,580 --> 01:00:50,440
that was a space person I knew it my

1334
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:53,590
head I knew was from space until I saw

1335
01:00:57,810 --> 01:00:56,170
the pictures of Valiant floor in the

1336
01:01:00,540 --> 01:00:57,820
book Frank strange as years and years

1337
01:01:03,540 --> 01:01:00,550
ago many years ago I think Tim gave me

1338
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:03,550
the book actually oh my I recognized a

1339
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:05,410
guy and I said Nick and it looks like

1340
01:01:11,660 --> 01:01:07,930
the guy in my bed in my mom's bed was

1341
01:01:16,110 --> 01:01:11,670
just look like him but when I asked them

1342
01:01:18,270 --> 01:01:16,120
the name that he gave was Val and at

1343
01:01:21,660 --> 01:01:18,280
that time I had golden retriever got

1344
01:01:23,970 --> 01:01:21,670
named Prince Valiant and I thought I

1345
01:01:26,940 --> 01:01:23,980
wonder if his name was Val you think

1346
01:01:27,180 --> 01:01:26,950
like dogs so isn't that weird that's the

1347
01:01:28,890 --> 01:01:27,190
weir

1348
01:01:30,030 --> 01:01:28,900
thing that's ever done here but I always

1349
01:01:31,890 --> 01:01:30,040
knew the guy at the end of the bed was

1350
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:31,900
not from Earth just by his face he

1351
01:01:34,770 --> 01:01:34,210
looked at me and the telepathy I felt

1352
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:34,780
from him

1353
01:01:38,250 --> 01:01:36,930
he was telling me you're gonna be okay

1354
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:38,260
you're okay

1355
01:01:43,050 --> 01:01:40,450
that was nothing wrong I said to him

1356
01:01:44,460 --> 01:01:43,060
actually I focused I said I was out

1357
01:01:46,140 --> 01:01:44,470
there I'm like my friends I'm the

1358
01:01:47,730 --> 01:01:46,150
spaceship that's why I was probably

1359
01:01:49,020 --> 01:01:47,740
smiling and like my cousin said you were

1360
01:01:51,300 --> 01:01:49,030
smiling I couldn't make give him to do

1361
01:01:52,559 --> 01:01:51,310
making the joke of this but I was

1362
01:01:54,900 --> 01:01:52,569
actually totally unconscious you know

1363
01:01:59,390 --> 01:01:54,910
I'd read really doubt deep and soul

1364
01:02:01,530 --> 01:01:59,400
travel so that happened way back then

1365
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:01,540
and because I've already had UFO

1366
01:02:05,609 --> 01:02:03,130
extenders with the crew different guys

1367
01:02:08,099 --> 01:02:05,619
and different things there I just felt

1368
01:02:09,450 --> 01:02:08,109
and knew this was not a human I thought

1369
01:02:10,620 --> 01:02:09,460
sure you guys invited me at the right

1370
01:02:13,950 --> 01:02:10,630
time somehow I didn't even know what

1371
01:02:16,730 --> 01:02:13,960
have well you know after we come back

1372
01:02:21,630 --> 01:02:16,740
from our short break here I'm going to

1373
01:02:24,210 --> 01:02:21,640
relate another incident involving Val

1374
01:02:27,270 --> 01:02:24,220
Thor where somebody apparently someone

1375
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:27,280
else apparently had contact with him

1376
01:02:31,500 --> 01:02:29,770
without realizing it for a number of

1377
01:02:34,020 --> 01:02:31,510
years until they saw that photograph and

1378
01:02:37,050 --> 01:02:34,030
stranger to Pentagon before we go on our

1379
01:02:39,300 --> 01:02:37,060
break why don't you fellows give us the

1380
01:02:40,650 --> 01:02:39,310
listeners out there your web sites so

1381
01:02:44,099 --> 01:02:40,660
that they can go to it while we're on

1382
01:02:50,309 --> 01:02:44,109
the break or write it down mark go ahead

1383
01:02:52,829 --> 01:02:50,319
okay intergalactic mission calm and in

1384
01:02:56,030 --> 01:02:52,839
info an intergalactic mission comedy

1385
01:02:58,620 --> 01:02:56,040
email and there's some really

1386
01:03:01,079 --> 01:02:58,630
fascinating photographs there I mean

1387
01:03:03,900 --> 01:03:01,089
these things are pardoning expression

1388
01:03:06,870 --> 01:03:03,910
from out of this world and Craig how

1389
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:06,880
about you're aware can our listeners see

1390
01:03:12,599 --> 01:03:10,450
a trailer of strangers Pentagon sure

1391
01:03:15,059 --> 01:03:12,609
they can they can actually watch the

1392
01:03:18,599 --> 01:03:15,069
short film there as well it's a stranger

1393
01:03:21,050 --> 01:03:18,609
at the Pentagon calm and the

1394
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:21,060
autobiography of an extraterrestrial

1395
01:03:28,890 --> 01:03:25,930
trilogy is autobiography of on et

1396
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:28,900
dot-com and then my regular website is

1397
01:03:34,530 --> 01:03:31,930
Craig campobasso dot-com now quick how

1398
01:03:38,970 --> 01:03:34,540
long does this version of the movie la

1399
01:03:40,210 --> 01:03:38,980
how long is it the actual UH movie is

1400
01:03:45,190 --> 01:03:40,220
about seven

1401
01:03:47,290 --> 01:03:45,200
ten minutes uh uh and then you know we

1402
01:03:50,589 --> 01:03:47,300
have our main title credits and then we

1403
01:03:52,690 --> 01:03:50,599
have our entitle credits and it was a

1404
01:03:55,089 --> 01:03:52,700
film that was made by the people for the

1405
01:03:58,300 --> 01:03:55,099
people because the people wanted to see

1406
01:04:01,839 --> 01:03:58,310
it so I wanted to give everybody I

1407
01:04:03,730 --> 01:04:01,849
wanted to put everybody's name who had

1408
01:04:06,670 --> 01:04:03,740
something to do with it because all of

1409
01:04:08,980 --> 01:04:06,680
these people created it so in real

1410
01:04:11,589 --> 01:04:08,990
length it's 24 minutes but the actual

1411
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:11,599
film and a brief excerpt from dr. Frank

1412
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:15,290
is about 17 now do you plan at some

1413
01:04:19,690 --> 01:04:16,970
future date to continue with this and

1414
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:19,700
make it into a full-length feature yes

1415
01:04:26,020 --> 01:04:23,690
I'm actually raising we have right now

1416
01:04:29,710 --> 01:04:26,030
at 23 million dollar budget to do the

1417
01:04:32,740 --> 01:04:29,720
feature yeah so I'm in the midst of

1418
01:04:35,260 --> 01:04:32,750
raising that so any listeners out there

1419
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:35,270
you know if you got a big nice checkbook

1420
01:04:40,930 --> 01:04:38,210
call me well you know I I used to know

1421
01:04:41,530 --> 01:04:40,940
India a - I remember - I remember a

1422
01:04:43,390 --> 01:04:41,540
mystery

1423
01:04:45,490 --> 01:04:43,400
I remember Missouri I remember I

1424
01:04:47,890 --> 01:04:45,500
remember in the old days they used to

1425
01:04:49,829 --> 01:04:47,900
say sometimes it's easier to get big

1426
01:04:52,329 --> 01:04:49,839
sums of money than it is the edge of

1427
01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:52,339
$50,000 because your pay back is it

1428
01:04:57,550 --> 01:04:54,650
gonna be anywhere near as big that's

1429
01:05:01,630 --> 01:04:57,560
right okay so while we contemplate these

1430
01:05:03,550 --> 01:05:01,640
numbers we're going to go on a short

1431
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:03,560
break and we'll be back in a few minutes

1432
01:05:09,370 --> 01:05:06,770
with our fascinating conversation with

1433
01:05:12,940 --> 01:05:09,380
some fascinating guests and some really

1434
01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:17,170
all right we're back in the mix we're

1435
01:05:23,770 --> 01:05:19,730
back in the swirl of things where is

1436
01:05:26,500 --> 01:05:23,780
deep into this black hole as we're

1437
01:05:31,030 --> 01:05:26,510
possibly ever going to get and we're

1438
01:05:33,339 --> 01:05:31,040
here with our amazing co-host Carla

1439
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:33,349
Anderson hello and then we're traveling

1440
01:05:38,370 --> 01:05:36,770
the secrets and down there down there

1441
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:38,380
down am I happy

1442
01:05:45,310 --> 01:05:43,010
Wow down are we behave we've been

1443
01:05:48,220 --> 01:05:45,320
promising to unravel the secrets for

1444
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:48,230
weeks and everything you give it Wow

1445
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:50,930
getting that we're we're getting there

1446
01:05:55,150 --> 01:05:52,730
yes we only got a hundred more shows the

1447
01:05:58,120 --> 01:05:55,160
go and down in Miami we've got the

1448
01:06:00,880 --> 01:05:58,130
jackal on on the the doing the

1449
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:00,890
engineering and producing this evening

1450
01:06:07,210 --> 01:06:04,970
and we have here in New York we have our

1451
01:06:10,859 --> 01:06:07,220
friend mark and out on the west coast we

1452
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:10,869
have Craig who is the producer of

1453
01:06:15,579 --> 01:06:13,250
stranger the Pentagon at least the movie

1454
01:06:19,089 --> 01:06:15,589
version of it and you know I want to

1455
01:06:21,700 --> 01:06:19,099
tell about Thor story question oh I knew

1456
01:06:23,980 --> 01:06:21,710
Howard manager fairly well we were

1457
01:06:26,859 --> 01:06:23,990
fairly you know tight as as much as a

1458
01:06:29,859 --> 01:06:26,869
UFO researcher and a contact II can be

1459
01:06:34,390 --> 01:06:29,869
in fact on several occasions he

1460
01:06:37,630 --> 01:06:34,400
graciously consented to appear at our

1461
01:06:39,819 --> 01:06:37,640
UFO conferences on the west coast now he

1462
01:06:41,380 --> 01:06:39,829
hadn't spoken in years you know he wrote

1463
01:06:43,780 --> 01:06:41,390
this book from outer space to you in

1464
01:06:45,849 --> 01:06:43,790
which he talked about his experiences

1465
01:06:48,370 --> 01:06:45,859
there in Highbridge new jersey where

1466
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:48,380
these beings were landing in his apple

1467
01:06:53,410 --> 01:06:50,810
orchard and you know there were some

1468
01:06:56,470 --> 01:06:53,420
independent witnesses to this it wasn't

1469
01:06:58,569 --> 01:06:56,480
just his experiences there were people

1470
01:07:00,130 --> 01:06:58,579
that even told me that they had gone

1471
01:07:01,599 --> 01:07:00,140
there without telling you Howard that

1472
01:07:03,910 --> 01:07:01,609
the you know they were going to plan a

1473
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:03,920
visit they would park in the back of his

1474
01:07:09,250 --> 01:07:06,650
house back in the apple orchard or back

1475
01:07:11,380 --> 01:07:09,260
in that vicinity and late at night they

1476
01:07:13,630 --> 01:07:11,390
would see strange objects in the sky

1477
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:13,640
that would come down in land and on one

1478
01:07:18,220 --> 01:07:15,770
occasion a gentleman who was an engineer

1479
01:07:20,230 --> 01:07:18,230
told me that he had missing time he

1480
01:07:22,359 --> 01:07:20,240
remembers pulling in listening to the

1481
01:07:24,010 --> 01:07:22,369
Long John Neville show it was about 1

1482
01:07:26,090 --> 01:07:24,020
o'clock in the morning and the next

1483
01:07:28,430 --> 01:07:26,100
thing he knew the Sun was come

1484
01:07:31,970 --> 01:07:28,440
and he could never explain what happened

1485
01:07:34,910 --> 01:07:31,980
to him during that period of maybe four

1486
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:34,920
hours where he had miss I guess missing

1487
01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:36,410
time is the best way to describe it

1488
01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:39,450
except his whole life changed or

1489
01:07:45,620 --> 01:07:42,810
something triggered him to go out buy a

1490
01:07:49,460 --> 01:07:45,630
trailer sell his home break up with his

1491
01:07:51,470 --> 01:07:49,470
wife and he started I guess tinkering is

1492
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:51,480
the best way I could describe it and

1493
01:07:56,330 --> 01:07:53,370
working on different inventions and all

1494
01:07:59,060 --> 01:07:56,340
it was like something had put

1495
01:08:03,290 --> 01:07:59,070
information into his mind and he was

1496
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:03,300
trying to relate that experience and and

1497
01:08:07,370 --> 01:08:05,730
and you know work on whatever it was

1498
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:07,380
that they were trying to tell him kind

1499
01:08:12,050 --> 01:08:09,450
of like George Noory not George Noory

1500
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:12,060
I'm the fellow at Dreyfuss in the the

1501
01:08:15,830 --> 01:08:14,010
film Close Encounters remember where he

1502
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:15,840
was building the The Devil's Tower and

1503
01:08:21,140 --> 01:08:19,530
almost before yeah we've heard other

1504
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:21,150
stories like that where people have been

1505
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:23,730
implanted with thought and have gone out

1506
01:08:28,630 --> 01:08:25,530
and tried to invent something or come up

1507
01:08:31,310 --> 01:08:28,640
with some device that they were told

1508
01:08:34,300 --> 01:08:31,320
would be of benefit to all of humanity

1509
01:08:36,170 --> 01:08:34,310
which brings me to this this story

1510
01:08:39,770 --> 01:08:36,180
regarding a gentleman by the name of

1511
01:08:41,510 --> 01:08:39,780
Joseph Fourier now one of my friends is

1512
01:08:45,590 --> 01:08:41,520
a talk-show host by the name of Paul II

1513
01:08:48,050 --> 01:08:45,600
know he has a program on a small Rhode

1514
01:08:51,290 --> 01:08:48,060
Island radio station called behind the

1515
01:08:54,050 --> 01:08:51,300
paranormal in fact he was on the show oh

1516
01:08:56,950 --> 01:08:54,060
I think three weeks ago now talking

1517
01:09:00,349 --> 01:08:56,960
about Charles fort and some of the early

1518
01:09:02,150 --> 01:09:00,359
experiences of people here in America

1519
01:09:04,310 --> 01:09:02,160
with the occult and the supernatural

1520
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:04,320
going back to the seventeen hundreds

1521
01:09:10,849 --> 01:09:06,530
poltergeists and

1522
01:09:12,620 --> 01:09:10,859
hauntings and other straight vampires in

1523
01:09:13,910 --> 01:09:12,630
fact most people don't realize that

1524
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:13,920
according to Paul there were vampires

1525
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:17,970
living in New England and he wrote up

1526
01:09:22,340 --> 01:09:20,130
some of these experiences for one of our

1527
01:09:26,540 --> 01:09:22,350
books that just came out called the Bell

1528
01:09:29,270 --> 01:09:26,550
Witch Project anyway at the same radio

1529
01:09:31,460 --> 01:09:29,280
station which is W oon in Woonsocket

1530
01:09:34,820 --> 01:09:31,470
Rhode Island there was a gentleman that

1531
01:09:38,110 --> 01:09:34,830
I knew there from fifty years ago his

1532
01:09:40,070 --> 01:09:38,120
name was Joseph farrier and he had a

1533
01:09:43,010 --> 01:09:40,080
talk show there

1534
01:09:44,870 --> 01:09:43,020
but he also was interested in UFOs but

1535
01:09:46,820 --> 01:09:44,880
he really didn't discuss that on the on

1536
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:46,830
the air that really wasn't one of his

1537
01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:50,250
main subjects but as a teenager we

1538
01:09:55,670 --> 01:09:53,370
exchange publications I had a newsletter

1539
01:09:58,040 --> 01:09:55,680
called the interplanetary news service

1540
01:10:00,620 --> 01:09:58,050
report and he put out the controversial

1541
01:10:02,420 --> 01:10:00,630
phenomena bulletin and we swap

1542
01:10:04,310 --> 01:10:02,430
publications in the mail and we

1543
01:10:07,070 --> 01:10:04,320
correspond to each year with each other

1544
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:07,080
and we converse of the phone at some

1545
01:10:12,710 --> 01:10:10,410
point he invited me up to his to do his

1546
01:10:15,130 --> 01:10:12,720
talk-show and again it was not a UFO

1547
01:10:17,030 --> 01:10:15,140
talk show it was just more or less a

1548
01:10:19,220 --> 01:10:17,040
what would you call it was a Drivetime

1549
01:10:20,990 --> 01:10:19,230
show like in the in the early evening

1550
01:10:23,420 --> 01:10:21,000
while people are coming home from work

1551
01:10:25,790 --> 01:10:23,430
you know that's kind of usually the the

1552
01:10:27,530 --> 01:10:25,800
best time for a radio station to sell

1553
01:10:30,590 --> 01:10:27,540
ads and almost that's their biggest

1554
01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:30,600
audience and it was usually local would

1555
01:10:34,460 --> 01:10:32,850
news a lot like a lot of civic things

1556
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:34,470
going on in the neighborhood you know in

1557
01:10:41,810 --> 01:10:37,130
in Woonsocket in Cumberland and so forth

1558
01:10:43,910 --> 01:10:41,820
anyway he was receiving a number of

1559
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:43,920
phone calls from listeners who said that

1560
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:45,930
they were seeing these mysterious

1561
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:48,930
cigar-shaped objects in the sky in a

1562
01:10:54,980 --> 01:10:51,210
wooded area just outside the town of

1563
01:10:57,710 --> 01:10:54,990
Cumberland so he went there and he was

1564
01:10:59,180 --> 01:10:57,720
directed mentally to take photographs of

1565
01:11:01,460 --> 01:10:59,190
this object in the sky now there's a

1566
01:11:03,380 --> 01:11:01,470
cigar shaped object and there are the

1567
01:11:05,390 --> 01:11:03,390
dish shaped the craft was some sort of

1568
01:11:07,700 --> 01:11:05,400
ball shaped landing gear underneath kind

1569
01:11:10,310 --> 01:11:07,710
of look like the George Adamski craft

1570
01:11:12,860 --> 01:11:10,320
but Joe had experiences going back to

1571
01:11:15,050 --> 01:11:12,870
when he was four or five years old which

1572
01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:15,060
he remembers seeing a giant rocket in

1573
01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:17,970
the sky which he was said resembled

1574
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:20,330
something right out of a Flash Gordon

1575
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:22,770
movie he remembers playing in a you know

1576
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:25,890
in a sand box and seeing this thing you

1577
01:11:29,870 --> 01:11:27,930
know come overhead and throughout his

1578
01:11:32,030 --> 01:11:29,880
childhood he had a number of these weird

1579
01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:32,040
UFO experiences but didn't really think

1580
01:11:36,140 --> 01:11:34,770
that much you know about it unlike mark

1581
01:11:38,630 --> 01:11:36,150
he didn't feel that he was you know

1582
01:11:40,460 --> 01:11:38,640
programmed to do something you know to

1583
01:11:42,980 --> 01:11:40,470
carry out the word or that he was chosen

1584
01:11:44,990 --> 01:11:42,990
to do you know to to be a representative

1585
01:11:47,090 --> 01:11:45,000
of the space of people it was just

1586
01:11:48,770 --> 01:11:47,100
something that he had seen and he had

1587
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:48,780
noted and he thought was very unusual

1588
01:11:53,689 --> 01:11:50,970
and it got him I guess affecting and he

1589
01:11:55,580 --> 01:11:53,699
put out this newsletter because he was

1590
01:11:57,979 --> 01:11:55,590
became fascinated with the subject

1591
01:12:01,040 --> 01:11:57,989
anyway when he was a teenager he's about

1592
01:12:02,689 --> 01:12:01,050
17 years old he was hitchhiking which

1593
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:02,699
was something he normally didn't do but

1594
01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:04,370
he had to get somewhere and he had no

1595
01:12:10,700 --> 01:12:07,290
transportation so he hit the open road

1596
01:12:13,070 --> 01:12:10,710
and somebody stopped and picked him up

1597
01:12:17,150 --> 01:12:13,080
and he said it was a very clean-cut

1598
01:12:19,490 --> 01:12:17,160
couple a man and a woman very attractive

1599
01:12:20,900 --> 01:12:19,500
and they asked him where he was going

1600
01:12:23,060 --> 01:12:20,910
and Joe said while he was going maybe

1601
01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:23,070
about 25 or 30 miles from where they

1602
01:12:27,530 --> 01:12:24,570
picked him up and they said well they

1603
01:12:29,900 --> 01:12:27,540
could take him pretty close to there his

1604
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:29,910
destination they told him he could sit

1605
01:12:33,290 --> 01:12:31,890
in the back seat of the car okay so he

1606
01:12:35,419 --> 01:12:33,300
got in the back seat of the car and he

1607
01:12:37,330 --> 01:12:35,429
noticed on the back seat on the floor

1608
01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:37,340
and on the seat next to him were a

1609
01:12:43,669 --> 01:12:42,090
series of small black boxes and they

1610
01:12:46,180 --> 01:12:43,679
were making a little humming sound or

1611
01:12:48,020 --> 01:12:46,190
you know he could tell that they were

1612
01:12:51,350 --> 01:12:48,030
activated that's the best way I could

1613
01:12:53,330 --> 01:12:51,360
describe it and so his curiosity got the

1614
01:12:55,490 --> 01:12:53,340
better of him nes the couple in the

1615
01:12:57,590 --> 01:12:55,500
front you know the front seat of the car

1616
01:12:59,780 --> 01:12:57,600
what are these strange boxes back here

1617
01:13:01,550 --> 01:12:59,790
and they said oh whatever you do don't

1618
01:13:03,860 --> 01:13:01,560
touch them we're going around the

1619
01:13:05,950 --> 01:13:03,870
country and we're leaving them with

1620
01:13:09,860 --> 01:13:05,960
certain people because they're helping

1621
01:13:11,570 --> 01:13:09,870
regulate the vibrations of the planet to

1622
01:13:13,910 --> 01:13:11,580
bring up the vibration something to that

1623
01:13:15,590 --> 01:13:13,920
effect it's not as the exact words but

1624
01:13:18,380 --> 01:13:15,600
that's the you know the impression that

1625
01:13:20,510 --> 01:13:18,390
he gave about this okay so they left him

1626
01:13:22,550 --> 01:13:20,520
off at his at the destination where he

1627
01:13:25,340 --> 01:13:22,560
wants you know near where he was going

1628
01:13:26,390 --> 01:13:25,350
and you know he didn't think really too

1629
01:13:28,430 --> 01:13:26,400
much about it he said well that's a

1630
01:13:31,550 --> 01:13:28,440
strange experience the couple were very

1631
01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:31,560
nice the woman is very attractive and

1632
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:34,370
they had these a you know series of

1633
01:13:38,270 --> 01:13:36,570
boxes in the back of the car that he

1634
01:13:39,890 --> 01:13:38,280
couldn't explain well now of course the

1635
01:13:40,370 --> 01:13:39,900
first thing you would do would be the

1636
01:13:42,740 --> 01:13:40,380
cola

1637
01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:42,750
you know the security or or or something

1638
01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:44,130
and you know they would think it would

1639
01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:45,690
naturally was a terrorist instead of a

1640
01:13:52,610 --> 01:13:48,690
space people all right but many years

1641
01:13:55,189 --> 01:13:52,620
ago he later he met August see Roberts

1642
01:13:58,520 --> 01:13:55,199
now Auggie Roberts had a huge collection

1643
01:14:00,560 --> 01:13:58,530
of UFO photographs and Augie took the

1644
01:14:03,470 --> 01:14:00,570
the pictures out at the Howard mattress

1645
01:14:06,919 --> 01:14:03,480
place of this couple and his gentlemen

1646
01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:06,929
who Frank stranger said was well Thor so

1647
01:14:10,879 --> 01:14:08,130
Joe Ferrier

1648
01:14:13,879 --> 01:14:10,889
is thumbing through the book the

1649
01:14:16,189 --> 01:14:13,889
stranger to Pentagon that he had been or

1650
01:14:17,810 --> 01:14:16,199
he Robertson given him just to check out

1651
01:14:19,879 --> 01:14:17,820
the pictures the many pictures of flying

1652
01:14:21,530 --> 01:14:19,889
saucers and all that was in there

1653
01:14:24,020 --> 01:14:21,540
because basically was a picture book and

1654
01:14:27,770 --> 01:14:24,030
he came to the photograph of this couple

1655
01:14:30,020 --> 01:14:27,780
at Howard menders property attending a

1656
01:14:32,209 --> 01:14:30,030
UFO conference and he said to Augie

1657
01:14:35,660 --> 01:14:32,219
robbery she said this is the couple

1658
01:14:38,030 --> 01:14:35,670
definitely no doubt about it this is the

1659
01:14:41,510 --> 01:14:38,040
couple that picked me up and took me to

1660
01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:41,520
my destination and had the black boxes

1661
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:44,370
in the back seat of the car so this is

1662
01:14:50,479 --> 01:14:47,850
another I guess a story relating to two

1663
01:14:54,169 --> 01:14:50,489
valve Thor putting it more in the you

1664
01:14:56,180 --> 01:14:54,179
know in the area of believability I mean

1665
01:14:59,209 --> 01:14:56,190
that there's a if there's smoke there's

1666
01:15:04,550 --> 01:14:59,219
fire and in that fire seems to be a

1667
01:15:10,419 --> 01:15:04,560
valiant Thor right and I'm just trying

1668
01:15:15,169 --> 01:15:14,209
Harley bird who is the part of Project

1669
01:15:17,390 --> 01:15:15,179
Blue Book

1670
01:15:20,149 --> 01:15:17,400
back when who was transferred from the

1671
01:15:22,430 --> 01:15:20,159
Navy into Project Blue Book also

1672
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:22,440
confirmed the story uh here's just like

1673
01:15:26,540 --> 01:15:24,330
a little brief excerpt but well you know

1674
01:15:29,300 --> 01:15:26,550
something I hate to say this but I

1675
01:15:31,250 --> 01:15:29,310
wouldn't believe one word that Harley

1676
01:15:33,020 --> 01:15:31,260
bird said because we checked them out he

1677
01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:33,030
claimed he was related to Admiral Byrd

1678
01:15:39,430 --> 01:15:35,730
no truth whatsoever and that historic

1679
01:15:41,930 --> 01:15:39,440
Aaron Jamie I'm sorry he right yeah well

1680
01:15:43,820 --> 01:15:41,940
you could say what you want but there

1681
01:15:45,410 --> 01:15:43,830
are documents to prove that he worked

1682
01:15:49,010 --> 01:15:45,420
for Project Blue Book so that's not

1683
01:15:51,050 --> 01:15:49,020
what's in contention here so I don't

1684
01:15:55,100 --> 01:15:51,060
know if he's related to Admiral Byrd or

1685
01:15:58,010 --> 01:15:55,110
not but anyway so there was that and

1686
01:16:02,770 --> 01:15:58,020
then do you know major George filer he's

1687
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:02,780
on your on your side okay yeah yeah and

1688
01:16:12,050 --> 01:16:07,770
George George went to work at the

1689
01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:12,060
Pentagon I believe in 1961 and he told

1690
01:16:17,750 --> 01:16:14,850
me that he had heard the Inklings of the

1691
01:16:20,890 --> 01:16:17,760
Exeter Estoril man who had previously

1692
01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:20,900
been there for three years so

1693
01:16:25,540 --> 01:16:22,610
I've been meeting people out of the

1694
01:16:30,700 --> 01:16:25,550
woodwork who have seen him uh over the

1695
01:16:34,660 --> 01:16:30,710
years as well so the more and more this

1696
01:16:36,130 --> 01:16:34,670
comes out uh it seems that there's a lot

1697
01:16:40,060 --> 01:16:36,140
of people have had some sort of contact

1698
01:16:42,730 --> 01:16:40,070
so well it wasn't he supposed to have a

1699
01:16:47,470 --> 01:16:42,740
ship that was parked in an underground

1700
01:16:51,100 --> 01:16:47,480
or undersea base somewhere up it was it

1701
01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:51,110
in Nevada you know if you the the craft

1702
01:16:57,970 --> 01:16:55,130
is stationed at Lake Mead there's me

1703
01:17:01,510 --> 01:16:57,980
yeah yeah there's several there it's not

1704
01:17:03,190 --> 01:17:01,520
underwater though but there are from

1705
01:17:06,070 --> 01:17:03,200
what dr. Frank said and all these

1706
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:06,080
locations are listed in stranger at the

1707
01:17:12,940 --> 01:17:10,090
Pentagon as well I think there's about

1708
01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:12,950
287 locations where all the victor class

1709
01:17:20,530 --> 01:17:17,930
saucers are and then the the starship is

1710
01:17:23,140 --> 01:17:20,540
14 miles long and 7 miles wide and

1711
01:17:25,570 --> 01:17:23,150
that's what sends out the beams that the

1712
01:17:28,180 --> 01:17:25,580
craft actually follow and can do all the

1713
01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:28,190
amazing maneuvers and things like that

1714
01:17:33,550 --> 01:17:29,690
I'm not really quite sure how it works

1715
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:33,560
but dr. Frank's had mentioned that as

1716
01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:37,010
well so that was fascinating well I know

1717
01:17:42,700 --> 01:17:39,890
Frank said that he actually was on board

1718
01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:42,710
the ship a couple of times yes yeah and

1719
01:17:49,270 --> 01:17:45,170
I am he told me on board the starship as

1720
01:17:51,730 --> 01:17:49,280
well mmm well it's a you know I I

1721
01:17:53,530 --> 01:17:51,740
believe the part obviously about the the

1722
01:17:56,950 --> 01:17:53,540
stranger to Pentagon because actually

1723
01:17:59,830 --> 01:17:56,960
Frank did show me uh some documents that

1724
01:18:01,810 --> 01:17:59,840
had been Declassified where the Kai you

1725
01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:01,820
know it's mentioned about this person

1726
01:18:06,790 --> 01:18:04,250
living there course some people will say

1727
01:18:08,860 --> 01:18:06,800
well it was a bit of disinformation that

1728
01:18:11,770 --> 01:18:08,870
the government I mean some people tried

1729
01:18:14,110 --> 01:18:11,780
to say well it was you know a a project

1730
01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:14,120
to see what people would think about the

1731
01:18:18,910 --> 01:18:16,610
possibility that there were ETS living

1732
01:18:21,010 --> 01:18:18,920
amongst us yeah so but it's it's

1733
01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:21,020
certainly a credible story it's it ranks

1734
01:18:27,070 --> 01:18:23,330
up there high among the more believable

1735
01:18:29,590 --> 01:18:27,080
cases as far as the contact experiences

1736
01:18:32,410 --> 01:18:29,600
go yeah and like I say I did it I knew

1737
01:18:34,279 --> 01:18:32,420
Frank fairly well and and I I think he

1738
01:18:38,419 --> 01:18:34,289
was a very credible person

1739
01:18:40,009 --> 01:18:38,429
yes yeah and an incredible human being a

1740
01:18:43,009 --> 01:18:40,019
lot of people don't know he was also a

1741
01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:43,019
marshal he was a chaplain he did a lot

1742
01:18:51,020 --> 01:18:46,610
of work with pelea immigration

1743
01:18:55,399 --> 01:18:51,030
organization immigration uh I traveled

1744
01:18:57,979 --> 01:18:55,409
with him so I when we checked in he

1745
01:18:59,600 --> 01:18:57,989
showed his martial badge and I mean

1746
01:19:00,709 --> 01:18:59,610
that's a great thing about traveling if

1747
01:19:02,569 --> 01:19:00,719
you're traveling with the marshal they

1748
01:19:05,419 --> 01:19:02,579
give you great you know they take you on

1749
01:19:09,310 --> 01:19:05,429
board immediately I am with you all the

1750
01:19:11,779 --> 01:19:09,320
time dr. Frank so but you know another

1751
01:19:14,569 --> 01:19:11,789
fascinating thing as well because you

1752
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:14,579
had mentioned about you know that could

1753
01:19:18,830 --> 01:19:16,650
have been employed for them to see what

1754
01:19:25,399 --> 01:19:18,840
the the people might have thought about

1755
01:19:31,939 --> 01:19:25,409
it but back when the Day the Earth Stood

1756
01:19:35,029 --> 01:19:31,949
Still was made a doctor or George filer

1757
01:19:37,189 --> 01:19:35,039
told me he had met Michael Rennie on an

1758
01:19:41,060 --> 01:19:37,199
airplane and Michael Rennie had told him

1759
01:19:42,770 --> 01:19:41,070
that the US government funded that film

1760
01:19:48,229 --> 01:19:42,780
now I'm not sure if that's correct or

1761
01:19:50,959 --> 01:19:48,239
not but to actually see what the

1762
01:19:54,589 --> 01:19:50,969
reaction to the public would be about

1763
01:19:58,459 --> 01:19:54,599
that film and then that came out in

1764
01:20:02,839 --> 01:19:58,469
either 52 or 53 and then we have valiant

1765
01:20:05,330 --> 01:20:02,849
Thor coming into the scene in 57 to 60

1766
01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:05,340
and then he returned the year later and

1767
01:20:10,399 --> 01:20:07,250
has been here ever since

1768
01:20:12,290 --> 01:20:10,409
well it's rather interesting a lot of

1769
01:20:14,839 --> 01:20:12,300
people claim that the especially the

1770
01:20:19,220 --> 01:20:14,849
early sci-fi movies were an attempt by

1771
01:20:23,149 --> 01:20:19,230
the government to to program us I don't

1772
01:20:25,729 --> 01:20:23,159
know and in some way to believe in the

1773
01:20:27,799 --> 01:20:25,739
existence of the ETS and of course now

1774
01:20:29,689 --> 01:20:27,809
The Day the Earth Stood Still which of

1775
01:20:32,509 --> 01:20:29,699
course is one of my favorite in fact

1776
01:20:35,299 --> 01:20:32,519
Robert Weiss who produced and directed

1777
01:20:37,669 --> 01:20:35,309
the film he actually came to one of our

1778
01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:37,679
conferences and gave a talk about the

1779
01:20:44,180 --> 01:20:39,449
making of the about the making of the

1780
01:20:45,379 --> 01:20:44,190
movie okay very good now he didn't he

1781
01:20:47,339 --> 01:20:45,389
didn't seem to believe that there was

1782
01:20:49,830 --> 01:20:47,349
any you know government

1783
01:20:52,049 --> 01:20:49,840
conspiracy or involvement with that was

1784
01:20:54,029 --> 01:20:52,059
in his pitch but it's rather interesting

1785
01:20:55,919 --> 01:20:54,039
about how the fact that that's one of

1786
01:20:59,819 --> 01:20:55,929
the few science fiction movies outside

1787
01:21:03,209 --> 01:20:59,829
of maybe Close Encounters where there

1788
01:21:05,399 --> 01:21:03,219
was a positive spin on the the visitors

1789
01:21:07,709 --> 01:21:05,409
coming here because most of the movies

1790
01:21:10,379 --> 01:21:07,719
that have been made you know have been

1791
01:21:12,629 --> 01:21:10,389
showing the aliens as Martians that will

1792
01:21:14,669 --> 01:21:12,639
blow you out of the sky or insects that

1793
01:21:17,580 --> 01:21:14,679
will take your grandmother away or or

1794
01:21:19,889 --> 01:21:17,590
something along that along that line and

1795
01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:19,899
there have been of course you know there

1796
01:21:25,310 --> 01:21:22,570
seems to be here in the UFO field and

1797
01:21:30,689 --> 01:21:25,320
I've studied this for many many decades

1798
01:21:32,879 --> 01:21:30,699
there is a positive and negative you

1799
01:21:35,429 --> 01:21:32,889
know experiences some people are drawn

1800
01:21:38,040 --> 01:21:35,439
to this like Mark and believe that it

1801
01:21:41,729 --> 01:21:38,050
you know that the UFO beings are here to

1802
01:21:44,189 --> 01:21:41,739
help humanity and other people the claim

1803
01:21:46,409 --> 01:21:44,199
that UFOs are here to suck out our

1804
01:21:50,219 --> 01:21:46,419
innards and take us out to lunch not in

1805
01:21:54,060 --> 01:21:50,229
a positive way and there there are cases

1806
01:21:56,489 --> 01:21:54,070
that support both of contentions now

1807
01:21:59,279 --> 01:21:56,499
mark you you say that you've never met a

1808
01:22:01,560 --> 01:21:59,289
an alien that you didn't like never met

1809
01:22:03,989 --> 01:22:01,570
a negative evil thing or evil alien or

1810
01:22:07,020 --> 01:22:03,999
anything but I feel that because the

1811
01:22:09,479 --> 01:22:07,030
crew I work with or my fam I call them

1812
01:22:11,759 --> 01:22:09,489
but I've always said never think about

1813
01:22:14,759 --> 01:22:11,769
these types because when I asked about

1814
01:22:16,770 --> 01:22:14,769
Benny Hill I was 11 12 years old I said

1815
01:22:19,409 --> 01:22:16,780
you know then they said we know of them

1816
01:22:22,379 --> 01:22:19,419
but do not call them toward you because

1817
01:22:24,179 --> 01:22:22,389
they're like scientific trick some of

1818
01:22:25,919 --> 01:22:24,189
them are tricksters in the way too so I

1819
01:22:27,449 --> 01:22:25,929
tell people do not think about them

1820
01:22:29,279 --> 01:22:27,459
don't be afraid don't sense fear out

1821
01:22:31,439 --> 01:22:29,289
because the energy comes back the same

1822
01:22:35,939 --> 01:22:31,449
way like they read that in energy fields

1823
01:22:39,419 --> 01:22:35,949
but they um the government the ETS that

1824
01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:39,429
I know may told me the story in 80's how

1825
01:22:43,469 --> 01:22:42,010
the government's made that choice with

1826
01:22:45,629 --> 01:22:43,479
the crew that they got to one so they're

1827
01:22:49,919 --> 01:22:45,639
out there under the ground the heat even

1828
01:22:51,239 --> 01:22:49,929
so I guess so you know they they came to

1829
01:22:52,759 --> 01:22:51,249
their planet was messed up so they came

1830
01:22:54,810 --> 01:22:52,769
here and tried to do that but the

1831
01:22:56,549 --> 01:22:54,820
positive ETS I would say but everyone

1832
01:22:59,099 --> 01:22:56,559
ones of the solar system warned the

1833
01:23:00,700 --> 01:22:59,109
government ahead of time and said don't

1834
01:23:02,439 --> 01:23:00,710
make a contract with them

1835
01:23:04,030 --> 01:23:02,449
they're known to trick you know they

1836
01:23:06,550 --> 01:23:04,040
will do anything they'll sign anything

1837
01:23:11,260 --> 01:23:06,560
but they won't follow through and again

1838
01:23:13,510 --> 01:23:11,270
kind of like the Iranians next and then

1839
01:23:15,310 --> 01:23:13,520
so they didn't follow through and what

1840
01:23:17,530 --> 01:23:15,320
happens - were getting abducted and all

1841
01:23:21,070 --> 01:23:17,540
that stuff around but there's so much -

1842
01:23:23,350 --> 01:23:21,080
that there are negative beings yes but

1843
01:23:25,750 --> 01:23:23,360
the majority of the universal energy or

1844
01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:25,760
let's say omniverse because there's many

1845
01:23:32,680 --> 01:23:29,890
Universal energy are benevolent and

1846
01:23:36,700 --> 01:23:32,690
majority of living beings of sort like

1847
01:23:39,790 --> 01:23:36,710
beings in all there's 70% that's light

1848
01:23:42,250 --> 01:23:39,800
and energy dimensional beings the 30% or

1849
01:23:44,950 --> 01:23:42,260
physical densities and that's what I've

1850
01:23:47,430 --> 01:23:44,960
learned from the crew so they said the

1851
01:23:49,930 --> 01:23:47,440
3d reality is a testing grounds they

1852
01:23:51,610 --> 01:23:49,940
soul test itself you know it's like we

1853
01:23:53,830 --> 01:23:51,620
call it cosmic boot camp on earth as a

1854
01:23:56,200 --> 01:23:53,840
joke but it's true right like you go

1855
01:23:58,479 --> 01:23:56,210
through everything here and that's right

1856
01:24:00,820 --> 01:23:58,489
they've always told me I've never taken

1857
01:24:02,290 --> 01:24:00,830
drugs or anything they always told me as

1858
01:24:05,020 --> 01:24:02,300
a child they said these are all Chester

1859
01:24:07,330 --> 01:24:05,030
put here so keep as clean as you can the

1860
01:24:09,310 --> 01:24:07,340
body is your temple it's a vessel it's

1861
01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:09,320
like you know not feeding your card more

1862
01:24:13,540 --> 01:24:11,690
oil so make it good oil you know things

1863
01:24:17,040 --> 01:24:13,550
like that so I try to tell people to

1864
01:24:20,229 --> 01:24:17,050
help that do their body is good you know

1865
01:24:22,570 --> 01:24:20,239
purified detox no wonder no wonder I

1866
01:24:25,149 --> 01:24:22,580
haven't had any space contacts lately

1867
01:24:27,280 --> 01:24:25,159
well but you can still have it out of

1868
01:24:29,770 --> 01:24:27,290
bodies and I feel the Kreg headed I feel

1869
01:24:30,729 --> 01:24:29,780
strong you should lucid dream that's

1870
01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:30,739
when you're out of body when you're

1871
01:24:34,090 --> 01:24:32,690
right there yeah we went on the ships

1872
01:24:36,250 --> 01:24:34,100
they have ships around the earth they

1873
01:24:37,870 --> 01:24:36,260
called teaching ships and you're on

1874
01:24:41,169 --> 01:24:37,880
right worth just densities in six to

1875
01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:41,179
seven so people can go out of body or be

1876
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:42,890
taken there by their Guardians and well

1877
01:24:46,930 --> 01:24:44,810
well let's let's say s Carly are you

1878
01:24:54,669 --> 01:24:46,940
ready for a contact experience Carla oh

1879
01:24:57,010 --> 01:24:54,679
I don't know I was just thinking I was

1880
01:24:58,570 --> 01:24:57,020
just thinking I mean you know could you

1881
01:25:00,010 --> 01:24:58,580
reach his consciousness with meditation

1882
01:25:02,350 --> 01:25:00,020
or something

1883
01:25:04,360 --> 01:25:02,360
you know is it is it something that's

1884
01:25:07,300 --> 01:25:04,370
that's with it or acid is it something

1885
01:25:09,970 --> 01:25:07,310
that's within you yeah it's within

1886
01:25:12,820 --> 01:25:09,980
everybody of course yeah well well you

1887
01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:12,830
know the shamans of course they take a

1888
01:25:16,930 --> 01:25:14,330
light a Cal

1889
01:25:19,390 --> 01:25:16,940
rasca and they see UFOs and they see

1890
01:25:22,530 --> 01:25:19,400
space beings and they look remarkably

1891
01:25:26,970 --> 01:25:22,540
similar to the ones that you guys

1892
01:25:29,590 --> 01:25:26,980
describe in fact a dr. John Mack uh

1893
01:25:32,500 --> 01:25:29,600
traveled I think to the Amazon and and

1894
01:25:34,450 --> 01:25:32,510
you know converse with the shamans about

1895
01:25:36,850 --> 01:25:34,460
this and they had all kinds of paintings

1896
01:25:39,310 --> 01:25:36,860
of things that could be UFOs and aliens

1897
01:25:41,350 --> 01:25:39,320
and so there is some belief among

1898
01:25:43,690 --> 01:25:41,360
certain people that the shamanistic

1899
01:25:46,030 --> 01:25:43,700
approach will also take you to a higher

1900
01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:46,040
consciousness not that I follow that one

1901
01:25:50,770 --> 01:25:47,930
myself either but you know I'm just

1902
01:25:53,470 --> 01:25:50,780
saying that there there seems to be many

1903
01:25:57,340 --> 01:25:53,480
different ways to the top of the

1904
01:25:59,350 --> 01:25:57,350
mountains yeah the primitive ways - from

1905
01:26:03,760 --> 01:25:59,360
ancient times you know people please be

1906
01:26:05,710 --> 01:26:03,770
careful it's still a strong type of a

1907
01:26:09,010 --> 01:26:05,720
medicine would say that goes into the

1908
01:26:10,540 --> 01:26:09,020
pot or I I do I think it's kind of hard

1909
01:26:16,390 --> 01:26:10,550
to get ayahuasca in New York but if you

1910
01:26:19,150 --> 01:26:16,400
go over to Jersey City maybe anything

1911
01:26:22,120 --> 01:26:19,160
over here yeah your local high school

1912
01:26:24,610 --> 01:26:22,130
you'll find it yeah yeah right hand

1913
01:26:27,730 --> 01:26:24,620
corner you know why because if you

1914
01:26:29,230 --> 01:26:27,740
trigger a Kundalini or an energy

1915
01:26:33,070 --> 01:26:29,240
experience I was not ready yet for that

1916
01:26:35,020 --> 01:26:33,080
physical form it can take dangerous what

1917
01:26:37,780 --> 01:26:35,030
routes that can make chakras open up

1918
01:26:39,610 --> 01:26:37,790
prematurely or a Kundalini occur sudden

1919
01:26:41,020 --> 01:26:39,620
suddenly or spontaneously which can

1920
01:26:42,280 --> 01:26:41,030
actually launch a person in the air

1921
01:26:44,590 --> 01:26:42,290
which has happened to people I've known

1922
01:26:46,690 --> 01:26:44,600
and so you've got to be careful with the

1923
01:26:48,940 --> 01:26:46,700
body a lot of times it happens naturally

1924
01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:48,950
but the way it happens naturally is the

1925
01:26:54,610 --> 01:26:52,010
focus meditate if you need on the third

1926
01:26:57,520 --> 01:26:54,620
eye area and the crown chakra area with

1927
01:26:59,440 --> 01:26:57,530
a little gentle energy and light and you

1928
01:27:01,630 --> 01:26:59,450
will gently and gradually raise up the

1929
01:27:04,600 --> 01:27:01,640
energy frequencies of your chakras and

1930
01:27:06,970 --> 01:27:04,610
the spiritual bodies taking the rubs of

1931
01:27:08,650 --> 01:27:06,980
any kind is dangerous and imput drink

1932
01:27:10,330 --> 01:27:08,660
brings in openings for the lower astral

1933
01:27:13,630 --> 01:27:10,340
to come around so I always try to warn

1934
01:27:16,390 --> 01:27:13,640
people about that now you know now in a

1935
01:27:19,990 --> 01:27:16,400
couple of weeks I don't want to stick a

1936
01:27:23,310 --> 01:27:20,000
a poker in the fire but in a couple of

1937
01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:23,320
weeks we will have on Adam go rightly

1938
01:27:28,240 --> 01:27:26,530
who has written about the some of these

1939
01:27:31,060 --> 01:27:28,250
shamanistic

1940
01:27:33,310 --> 01:27:31,070
sneaks and he has some interesting

1941
01:27:36,100 --> 01:27:33,320
stories to tell in his researching a

1942
01:27:38,470 --> 01:27:36,110
book on the contactees believe it or not

1943
01:27:40,210 --> 01:27:38,480
in fact he asked me all about you mark

1944
01:27:42,190 --> 01:27:40,220
and I said well you know after you get

1945
01:27:48,130 --> 01:27:42,200
off your next ayahuasca trip maybe give

1946
01:27:51,100 --> 01:27:48,140
McCall yeah I I actually met Adam with

1947
01:27:55,120 --> 01:27:51,110
dr. Frank out at the integratron I think

1948
01:27:58,330 --> 01:27:55,130
that yes has been five or 2007 Anton I

1949
01:28:00,400 --> 01:27:58,340
said hi I will indeed well also too you

1950
01:28:03,370 --> 01:28:00,410
know I I didn't actually get to meet him

1951
01:28:06,070 --> 01:28:03,380
but I went to a screening of Travis

1952
01:28:08,020 --> 01:28:06,080
Waltons uh new movie which I believe is

1953
01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:08,030
called Travis it's actually a movie it's

1954
01:28:13,420 --> 01:28:11,330
a documentary about his initial

1955
01:28:16,390 --> 01:28:13,430
experience it's interesting for people

1956
01:28:17,710 --> 01:28:16,400
who are not up to speed on what

1957
01:28:20,140 --> 01:28:17,720
originally happened to him and it's got

1958
01:28:22,720 --> 01:28:20,150
a lot of good footage from that period

1959
01:28:27,750 --> 01:28:22,730
and interviews with of course the other

1960
01:28:30,730 --> 01:28:27,760
five witnesses who have seldom been

1961
01:28:32,860 --> 01:28:30,740
interviewed and it's interesting to hear

1962
01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:32,870
them talk about how the you know the

1963
01:28:38,260 --> 01:28:35,690
sheriff threatened to throw them in the

1964
01:28:41,560 --> 01:28:38,270
pokey throw away the key and charge them

1965
01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:41,570
with murder because Travis disappeared

1966
01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:44,090
for like five days before he showed up

1967
01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:48,050
and nobody knew where he was and it is

1968
01:28:54,340 --> 01:28:50,330
certainly one of the more credible

1969
01:28:56,800 --> 01:28:54,350
abduction experiences and you know you

1970
01:28:59,230 --> 01:28:56,810
talk about like negative experiences now

1971
01:29:00,790 --> 01:28:59,240
for many years Travis thought well these

1972
01:29:03,220 --> 01:29:00,800
were not the kind of souls in the

1973
01:29:05,230 --> 01:29:03,230
universe I mean they kind of poked and

1974
01:29:07,060 --> 01:29:05,240
they had they probed and in the movie I

1975
01:29:10,990 --> 01:29:07,070
think they even take his eye out which

1976
01:29:13,180 --> 01:29:11,000
is not a according to what really

1977
01:29:15,340 --> 01:29:13,190
happened yet you know they had one of a

1978
01:29:17,200 --> 01:29:15,350
problem you know in the book he doesn't

1979
01:29:19,030 --> 01:29:17,210
talk about them - no no no no but you

1980
01:29:21,070 --> 01:29:19,040
know what happened in the in the movie

1981
01:29:23,230 --> 01:29:21,080
version I think they told him at some

1982
01:29:25,690 --> 01:29:23,240
point hey you got to change some of this

1983
01:29:27,610 --> 01:29:25,700
because there's myself Hollywood

1984
01:29:29,620 --> 01:29:27,620
yes well yeah but also - there had been

1985
01:29:30,790 --> 01:29:29,630
another a movie that had just come out

1986
01:29:32,860 --> 01:29:30,800
or was in the works

1987
01:29:34,330 --> 01:29:32,870
and it was too similar so they said yeah

1988
01:29:36,730 --> 01:29:34,340
we gotta you know we got to make some

1989
01:29:39,460 --> 01:29:36,740
little changes here and of course Tracy

1990
01:29:41,020 --> 01:29:39,470
Torme who was the scriptwriter and one

1991
01:29:42,159 --> 01:29:41,030
of the producers on it didn't like that

1992
01:29:43,929 --> 01:29:42,169
idea at all and

1993
01:29:45,520 --> 01:29:43,939
Travis didn't you know feel too

1994
01:29:48,279 --> 01:29:45,530
comfortable with it but hey they got a

1995
01:29:51,459 --> 01:29:48,289
movie and in that that uh you know that

1996
01:29:52,659 --> 01:29:51,469
opened up the the case to millions and

1997
01:29:55,689 --> 01:29:52,669
millions of people who would have never

1998
01:29:57,429 --> 01:29:55,699
heard of it and you know previously and

1999
01:29:59,589 --> 01:29:57,439
who probably have followed you and I

2000
01:30:01,330 --> 01:29:59,599
certainly know most people that when I

2001
01:30:04,929 --> 01:30:01,340
told them today that I was going to you

2002
01:30:06,429 --> 01:30:04,939
know this Travis more than them meaning

2003
01:30:08,199 --> 01:30:06,439
they they know who he was I mean even

2004
01:30:10,359 --> 01:30:08,209
people that don't know Travis there by

2005
01:30:11,949 --> 01:30:10,369
the way yes he was he was there but I

2006
01:30:14,620 --> 01:30:11,959
didn't get a chance to say hello to him

2007
01:30:17,169 --> 01:30:14,630
I only stayed about a half an hour it

2008
01:30:19,589 --> 01:30:17,179
was held in a yoga studio and it was

2009
01:30:23,379 --> 01:30:19,599
kind of cramped in the back and I am I

2010
01:30:25,629 --> 01:30:23,389
am I am claustrophobic to say the least

2011
01:30:27,790 --> 01:30:25,639
but I got to say hello to Peter - Peter

2012
01:30:29,859 --> 01:30:27,800
Robbins who is one of the producers of

2013
01:30:33,669 --> 01:30:29,869
the film and I guess they're on a out on

2014
01:30:35,589 --> 01:30:33,679
a short tour showing the the movie and

2015
01:30:37,479 --> 01:30:35,599
and I wish him well with it and I it

2016
01:30:41,500 --> 01:30:37,489
what it is very well made and I'm sure

2017
01:30:45,100 --> 01:30:41,510
it'll be on demand shortly or sure it's

2018
01:30:48,310 --> 01:30:45,110
been called pilatus yeah and what it won

2019
01:30:52,479 --> 01:30:48,320
the Film Festival over at the UFO

2020
01:30:56,799 --> 01:30:52,489
Congress I was there I was there and and

2021
01:31:02,439 --> 01:30:56,809
by the way I just saw Yvonne Smith at

2022
01:31:06,429 --> 01:31:02,449
zero had Travis Tracy Torme and Debbie

2023
01:31:09,939 --> 01:31:06,439
who is the you know the lady who the

2024
01:31:12,729 --> 01:31:09,949
book intruders was done after so yes so

2025
01:31:14,889 --> 01:31:12,739
actually Tracy did put that to rest what

2026
01:31:16,929 --> 01:31:14,899
everybody had been wondering about the

2027
01:31:20,350 --> 01:31:16,939
ending of the movie he had originally

2028
01:31:23,169 --> 01:31:20,360
made intruders first and weirdly enough

2029
01:31:25,959 --> 01:31:23,179
it was repeating on television a

2030
01:31:28,299 --> 01:31:25,969
paramount exact saw it and said oh my

2031
01:31:31,449 --> 01:31:28,309
god this is too much like like your film

2032
01:31:34,509 --> 01:31:31,459
you have to change the ending and and

2033
01:31:36,850 --> 01:31:34,519
they were at this quagmire of you know

2034
01:31:38,290 --> 01:31:36,860
do they make the movie or do they not

2035
01:31:39,520 --> 01:31:38,300
make the movie because they weren't

2036
01:31:42,669 --> 01:31:39,530
going to make the movie unless you

2037
01:31:46,109 --> 01:31:42,679
changed it so they tried to do it with

2038
01:31:49,409 --> 01:31:46,119
symbology and Travis explained that uh

2039
01:31:53,529 --> 01:31:49,419
with certain things but in the long run

2040
01:31:55,840 --> 01:31:53,539
you're right you're uh Tim it got out

2041
01:31:58,960 --> 01:31:55,850
and and people

2042
01:31:59,680 --> 01:31:58,970
got to learn from it as well but but in

2043
01:32:03,370 --> 01:31:59,690
the end

2044
01:32:06,100 --> 01:32:03,380
Travis believes that that whatever the

2045
01:32:07,840 --> 01:32:06,110
energy of the ship hurt him and in the

2046
01:32:10,450 --> 01:32:07,850
end what they did is they had to bring

2047
01:32:12,880 --> 01:32:10,460
him on board and revive him and that's

2048
01:32:15,280 --> 01:32:12,890
his latest like that yeah he discussed

2049
01:32:17,470 --> 01:32:15,290
that with me back in 2009 actually when

2050
01:32:19,090 --> 01:32:17,480
I had him on the show rappers fun and I

2051
01:32:21,490 --> 01:32:19,100
were talking about that we mentioned

2052
01:32:23,950 --> 01:32:21,500
that what if the beam actually killed

2053
01:32:25,390 --> 01:32:23,960
him and they revived them and he agreed

2054
01:32:26,710 --> 01:32:25,400
that could very possibly have been and

2055
01:32:28,870 --> 01:32:26,720
he's been talking about that more

2056
01:32:30,160 --> 01:32:28,880
recently now also right it's very very

2057
01:32:34,750 --> 01:32:30,170
possible that's exactly what happened

2058
01:32:36,460 --> 01:32:34,760
yeah yeah and anyway but yeah it was

2059
01:32:39,990 --> 01:32:36,470
just fascinating and I always wondered

2060
01:32:42,250 --> 01:32:40,000
about that ending but Tracy was there to

2061
01:32:44,470 --> 01:32:42,260
do that of course they weren't happy

2062
01:32:46,420 --> 01:32:44,480
about it but if you're you've got a

2063
01:32:49,090 --> 01:32:46,430
studio giving you the money to make a

2064
01:32:50,980 --> 01:32:49,100
movie like that you know that's why I'm

2065
01:32:53,410 --> 01:32:50,990
going the independent route on the

2066
01:32:55,450 --> 01:32:53,420
stranger at the Pentagon so we don't run

2067
01:33:03,250 --> 01:32:55,460
into them making valiant Thor

2068
01:33:05,650 --> 01:33:03,260
captain universe so that's right well it

2069
01:33:07,330 --> 01:33:05,660
just just one last quick thing Craig

2070
01:33:10,960 --> 01:33:07,340
any other movies that you know that are

2071
01:33:15,400 --> 01:33:10,970
being made up there with a wire on the

2072
01:33:16,930 --> 01:33:15,410
subject matter they are make it well

2073
01:33:18,960 --> 01:33:16,940
they're making Independence Day -

2074
01:33:22,960 --> 01:33:18,970
they're going to start shooting that in

2075
01:33:27,730 --> 01:33:22,970
the summertime I know Will Smith is back

2076
01:33:30,610 --> 01:33:27,740
and I almost miss I'll wave that in it

2077
01:33:31,900 --> 01:33:30,620
no no Jeff Goldblum is coming back a lot

2078
01:33:34,210 --> 01:33:31,910
of the cast members are but he's not

2079
01:33:35,950 --> 01:33:34,220
they just hired another actor to play

2080
01:33:36,790 --> 01:33:35,960
the grown-up version of the little kid

2081
01:33:40,540 --> 01:33:36,800
from the first movie

2082
01:33:43,210 --> 01:33:40,550
ah but not Will Smith he's back yeah

2083
01:33:46,780 --> 01:33:43,220
Swiss eye squad with Warner Brothers

2084
01:33:50,250 --> 01:33:46,790
instead of uh instead of that yeah I'm a

2085
01:33:53,500 --> 01:33:50,260
bit of that of that nature that's the UH

2086
01:33:56,200 --> 01:33:53,510
uh be out the only one that I that I

2087
01:33:58,150 --> 01:33:56,210
know of at the moment besides you know

2088
01:34:00,820 --> 01:33:58,160
us trying to get the feature-length

2089
01:34:02,550 --> 01:34:00,830
first Ranger going so and I guess on on

2090
01:34:05,710 --> 01:34:02,560
the paranormal side we would have

2091
01:34:09,660 --> 01:34:05,720
ghostbusters those three or four maybe

2092
01:34:13,890 --> 01:34:09,670
even five rolled up together well

2093
01:34:17,100 --> 01:34:13,900
actually a new Ghostbusters whoo

2094
01:34:19,439 --> 01:34:17,110
right up my alley I think it is with

2095
01:34:23,250 --> 01:34:19,449
Melissa McCarthy as the legals Busters

2096
01:34:25,890 --> 01:34:23,260
on Richard Ghostbuster girls Wow I weigh

2097
01:34:28,590 --> 01:34:25,900
my the way yeah we got it we got a

2098
01:34:31,709 --> 01:34:28,600
gentleman lady we have to close up

2099
01:34:33,660 --> 01:34:31,719
because the other Tim is taking over Tim

2100
01:34:36,540 --> 01:34:33,670
sorts and Michael mutt will be on here

2101
01:34:38,160 --> 01:34:36,550
in a few minutes and so we got to call

2102
01:34:42,240 --> 01:34:38,170
it an evening but we'll be back next

2103
01:34:44,130 --> 01:34:42,250
week at the same time I know it well at

2104
01:34:47,280 --> 01:34:44,140
the regular time and we want to thank

2105
01:34:49,830 --> 01:34:47,290
Mark and Craig and go to the website

2106
01:34:51,770 --> 01:34:49,840
check out their web you know what they

2107
01:34:54,959 --> 01:34:51,780
have to say look at marks photographs uh

2108
01:34:57,780 --> 01:34:54,969
get the book the UFO repeaters go to

2109
01:35:00,180 --> 01:34:57,790
Carla's a shop get your hair cut look at

2110
01:35:03,330 --> 01:35:00,190
the paintings on the wall and listen to

2111
01:35:06,330 --> 01:35:03,340
all the shows on the PS and radio

2112
01:35:07,970 --> 01:35:06,340
network with the jackal good night

2113
01:35:11,310 --> 01:35:07,980
everybody